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Ran these last season, worked extremely well until we hit frozen trails. The up had warm weather coming so they were pushing road banks back and anywhere the trail ran along road theyhad huge frozen clumps in trail. These broke springs whether they were up or down. Ibexx replaced springs no problem but if you need them and the break they are not much good.
Guy in my group has run a couple pairs of ibexx and they keep breaking too. Supposedly they are coming out with a shorter version for trail sleds that hopefully will hold up better.
 
This protects the rail where they sit when not in use, but plenty of things still kick up and mark the rails. Just an old garden hose cut in half and zip tied. Not the prettiest but it works.
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Yup I have the same idea on my Pro Ride Indy. Duraflex have almost 5000 miles on them. Not worn at all really and they are almost always down. Just watch storm grates in parking lots!😳 I snapped a mounting bolt not paying attention. Drilled out pilot hole in bolt and got it out. No other damage. Temp goes down right away after I drop em down.
 
I used them the season before last and had no issues what so ever and like you temps ran 90’s to low 100’s. We we’re running on extremely hard trail so probably had a lot to do with it. They run coils like that because when you are running in forward direction it is twisting spring into mounts as they are threaded into mounts when installing them. I think if they were mounted opposite they would loosen up.
That's exactly why they run them in the reverse direction. I've been running them since they came out, long version, both original and improved, on two RMKs, with the IBEXX retainers. They work well, but they do break. Replacing a broken one in the field can be a challenge since they can get wound in tight. Run Doo and SPI on other sleds. Just as durable, much easier to replace outside the shop. FWIW.
 
With xcr 136 doo scratchers seem too far back and do not seem to work as well as cable type scratchers.
Longer track sleds they may work better but shorter track sleds no good.
Depends also what type of snow your on.
Hands down dura flex are the best you can buy!
We’ve tested many different types!!
Only issue is that I need to come up with better way to protect rails!!
I agree. I have them on my 137” Boost. They are mounted to far back to really help much.
 
I am a guy that thinks cable scratches are absolutely terrible. Myself and a bunch have buddies have tried them, some of us a few times. Do not perform any where near as well and have never seen a set last more than a half season. Bear up the rails, track edges etc... Some seem to have had luck with them. Maybe they welded them on? I had 2 sets I gave away.
 
I am a guy that thinks cable scratches are absolutely terrible. Myself and a bunch have buddies have tried them, some of us a few times. Do not perform any where near as well and have never seen a set last more than a half season. Bear up the rails, track edges etc... Some seem to have had luck with them. Maybe they welded them on? I had 2 sets I gave away.
yup junk.
 
i have seen spring type snap off regularly! Trick to cable scratchers is to put them up when not needed.duraflex is the only ones i will use now after trying several types.I have made a plastic shield that holds scratcher up and also protects rail.we've ridden in some of worst conditions possible.what really works great is the old type long springs like mountain guys use just wish polaris would make a way to mount them!!
 
Glad they work for you, honestly, not being a dick lol. They just straight up don't compare in our area, and besides the experiences with myself and riding buds, you will routinely see them on the trail, with one missing, one loose, some zip tied because they can't get them off on the trail side, and they are just bouncing around, Ive seen them tied up with boot laces ! Woof lol

Worth noting, I literally have tried every scratcher type and mount location out there. You name it, I tried it. Definitely no loyalty here. I settled with one rig mounts and ski doo type reverse capable spring style. Liked the idea of the doo running board mounts, tried them on my sons assault. Just weren't super effective on the real hard ice days.
 
I've bought 2 sets of duraflex cables since 2015, had to change them in 2019 cause they lost rigidity and stopped working. I run them down all the time cause it's ice most of the time, and I never had a issue. My rails are beat up good, not from cables, from the gravel that they throw. Where everything is chipped off is from spray. Trying mdx this yr, but hopefully don't have to use them. I bought my buddy the cheap between the lines cables on Amazon for 40 bucks, his lasted just as long without issue. His are down all the time cause they never stay hooked and he doesn't care. Trick is red loctite and better bolt then they give u with cable. Have to red loctite the tips also. Never lost one.
 
I red loctited mine when I had them. In your defense, they did not come loose, I took them off with less than 100 miles though. Buddy of mine has a similar sled as mine, and with spring style was running 15- 20 degrees cooler than I was riding together. So I switched.
 
I red loctited mine when I had them. In your defense, they did not come loose, I took them off with less than 100 miles though. Buddy of mine has a similar sled as mine, and with spring style was running 15- 20 degrees cooler than I was riding together. So I switched.
I run no tstat in my 800 so they need to be down all the time once u running over 50mph, or it gets up to 140-145, with them down it runs 100-105, right where I want it. I tend to believe all the cable problems are just user error, like not loctiting correctly, or using the crap they give u with kit
 
My testing has been on rock hard frozen lake surfaces, can't walk on it without cramp ons. We were able to put on 60ish miles with no issues what so ever. Cable equipped rigs had to turn back. Extreme example I agree. But that was our findings. During testing that day, was surprising how many mph you'd lose with scratchers down😂
 
My testing has been on rock hard frozen lake surfaces, can't walk on it without cramp ons. We were able to put on 60ish miles with no issues what so ever. Cable equipped rigs had to turn back. Extreme example I agree. But that was our findings. During testing that day, was surprising how many mph you'd lose with scratchers down😂
Yes, you can easily feel the drag with longer spring scratchers in everything but rock hard snow, especially the longer ones for deeper lug tracks, but they work. Been running spring scratchers since they became available via aftermarket for mountain sleds since the 2000s. There are days in Jan/Feb you can't run a rock hard trail out west without them, regardless of lug height. If anyone is headed out west with your sled this year don't discount the need for them some days, regardless of lug height.
 
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