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#1 ·
I see on here that there is one case of the clutch having a problem, that looked like it cracked on the back sheave, other than that, that's the only guy that had a problem with the p-22, no bolts breaking, or any other problems?
 
#7 ·
Almost 700 miles on my 23 Boost. No issues at all. I checked bolt torque at a few miles though and again just recently. My P-22 also had .020" belt side clearance using the good 2325 original drivebelt. Most didn't. This resulted in some incidents of hanging idle. I never had it. But, I also realigned my way too far forward twisted engine before riding it. I've also cured the hanging idle on some 23 Boost sleds after doing this. The later P-22 clutches apparently were re-shimmed and went to a .037" narrower 2348 and .30" shorter drivebelt due to failure to reliably/consistently build the P-22 and install the engine properly. IMO, this created lost low gear and top end performance. Most riders probably never knew it.

Sorry for the added details, but hopefully it helps to see where some of the problems may have started.
 
#9 ·
The jury is still out. I’m still seeing P22’s sent into orbit. Challenge is if they have all the updates or not. Seems the CarbonSled connector and the FireNIce ARP bolt are the aftermarket fix (still theory but not seeing them go). I’ve been just running the 25 update and re-torquing and so far no issues. This summer the P22 will get worked over with an aftermarket treatment.
 
#14 ·
I compared the P-85 on my 2019 850 numerous times against the P-22 on my 23 Boost. Proper belts at proper deflection. P-22 was much faster. Start to finish. I did NOT switch clutches from one sled to another. But there was a hp advantage of about 15-20 for the Boost.
You need to realize that a P-22 from a 23 sled may be shimmed differently than a 24-25 due to using different belt widths and lengths. A P-85 is shimmed for a 1.47" wide belt. A P-22 can be shimmed for 1.47 to 1.10" depending on belt used.
 
#15 ·
nobody believes your stupid shit. you ride what 100 miles a season on a lake mostly? the P-22 is a pos every body heres knows this. you know the guys that race, ride, and tune there sleds. it sure in the fuck isn't you. what your like 80 years old? things not go well at chrysler? so you have to be the know it all here? maybe you should be over at DOO TALK? they all pat themselfs on the back over there. you need to realize all year p-22's are a pos.
 
#35 ·
Intrigued. What is the advantages of this wider belt... belt grip???
I believe it also has a softer compound and grips better. My 24 Boost with a p85 and 25 flash loves it.
If true, then that is NOT a direct comparison of the P-85 vs the P-22.
It’s true Phil, that belt is wider than the standard 850 belt but it’s not the belt that I used when I did the direct comparison of the p22 and p85 because I figured it wouldn’t be fair. On the other hand since you feel the wider 23 Boost belt is fair game then why not compare the p85 with a superior belt that is readily available? Your way of thinking isn’t the same as it used to be, it’s time for you to hang it up.
 
#36 ·
I believe it also has a softer compound and grips better. My 24 Boost with a p85 and 25 flash loves it.

It’s true Phil, that belt is wider than the standard 850 belt but it’s not the belt that I used when I did the direct comparison of the p22 and p85 because I figured it wouldn’t be fair. On the other hand since you feel the wider 23 Boost belt is fair game then why not compare the p85 with a superior belt that is readily available? Your way of thinking isn’t the same as it used to be, it’s time for you to hang it up.
LOL!
What belt are you referring to for the last time? Why are you avoiding the question?
 
#48 · (Edited)
i have a 2019 xc 850 drag sled. i have a brand new p-22 and the stock p-85. i have tried every belt for it, and with the very same set up the p-85 is faster. the p-22 is on the bench. i ran a tied on this sled. #1 phil is you actually have to ride your sled. more then 20' down the lake. if you ride like a sally then no wounder you aren't having issue's? a lot are because they use there sleds for actually trail riding, and lake racing etc. try airing you sled out and landing on the throttle and see how well the p-22 holds up. this is how a lot of guys ride. you know actually pounding on there sleds. not every body sits in the middle of there wheel chair, my bad sled and rides on smooth surfaces.
 
#49 ·
Maybe this video from SLP will increase your knowledge:

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The Polaris P22 clutch is praised for its improved throttle response, smoother clutch operation, reduced vibration, and better overall performance compared to standard clutches, especially in situations demanding quick acceleration and consistent power delivery, thanks to its design that allows for more precise adjustments and better belt clamping ability; this makes it a popular choice for performance-oriented riders, particularly in snowmobiles.

Key advantages of the P22 clutch include:
  • Enhanced acceleration:
    The design allows for quicker engagement, leading to a more immediate power delivery and better off-the-line performance.

  • Adjustable for different terrains:
    With the ability to fine-tune weights and helix angles, riders can customize the clutch to suit various riding conditions.

  • Reduced belt wear:
    Precise belt clamping helps to minimize belt slippage, leading to increased belt lifespan.

  • Self-adjusting mechanism:
    Some P22 clutch variations feature a self-adjusting mechanism that compensates for belt wear, maintaining optimal performance over time.

  • Improved durability:
    High-quality materials and construction contribute to increased clutch longevity.



  • The P22 clutch explained by SLP's Jerry Mathews - YouTube
    Jan 20, 2022 — right yep it's like shocks like shocks and clutches everybody knows they're important nobody really tunes them and adj...
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  • Billet Aluminum Primary Clutch Cover // Polaris P-22 - Speedwerx
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On the P22/secondary combo for your Boost or 9R you'll lose 1lb of rotating weight, gain quicker throttle response, less overall vibration from your machine and smoother clutch operation.Nov 27, 2022

3 more lighten and balanced P22 Boost... - Chris Burandt

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#53 ·
Maybe this video from SLP will increase your knowledge:

Or how about this one:

AI Overview
Learn more

The Polaris P22 clutch is praised for its improved throttle response, smoother clutch operation, reduced vibration, and better overall performance compared to standard clutches, especially in situations demanding quick acceleration and consistent power delivery, thanks to its design that allows for more precise adjustments and better belt clamping ability; this makes it a popular choice for performance-oriented riders, particularly in snowmobiles.

Key advantages of the P22 clutch include:
  • Enhanced acceleration:
    The design allows for quicker engagement, leading to a more immediate power delivery and better off-the-line performance.

  • Adjustable for different terrains:
    With the ability to fine-tune weights and helix angles, riders can customize the clutch to suit various riding conditions.

  • Reduced belt wear:
    Precise belt clamping helps to minimize belt slippage, leading to increased belt lifespan.

  • Self-adjusting mechanism:
    Some P22 clutch variations feature a self-adjusting mechanism that compensates for belt wear, maintaining optimal performance over time.

  • Improved durability:
    High-quality materials and construction contribute to increased clutch longevity.



  • The P22 clutch explained by SLP's Jerry Mathews - YouTube
    Jan 20, 2022 — right yep it's like shocks like shocks and clutches everybody knows they're important nobody really tunes them and adj...
    View attachment 2166863
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    YouTube ·
    SnoWest Magazine


  • Magnum Force™ Clutch Weight for P-22 Polaris Clutch
    SKU: magnum-polaris-p22. ... It utilizes external adjustability by means of a gun drilled and threaded center core, where mass can...

    Starting Line Products


  • Billet Aluminum Primary Clutch Cover // Polaris P-22 - Speedwerx
    Speedwerx Billet Aluminum Clutch Cover // Polaris P-22 - Boost / 9R Models * Added tower bushing material without sacrificing shi...
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Featured snippet from the web
On the P22/secondary combo for your Boost or 9R you'll lose 1lb of rotating weight, gain quicker throttle response, less overall vibration from your machine and smoother clutch operation.Nov 27, 2022
3 more lighten and balanced P22 Boost... - Chris Burandt
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and you believe these guys? did chris burandt explain how many p-22's they wreaked, and polaris releashed them anyway> of coarse not. he's paid by them. i don't listen to anyone. i learn from in field testing. period. so basiclly your a puppet?
 
#55 ·
Maybe this video from SLP will increase your knowledge:

Or how about this one:

AI Overview
Learn more

The Polaris P22 clutch is praised for its improved throttle response, smoother clutch operation, reduced vibration, and better overall performance compared to standard clutches, especially in situations demanding quick acceleration and consistent power delivery, thanks to its design that allows for more precise adjustments and better belt clamping ability; this makes it a popular choice for performance-oriented riders, particularly in snowmobiles.

Key advantages of the P22 clutch include:
  • Enhanced acceleration:
    The design allows for quicker engagement, leading to a more immediate power delivery and better off-the-line performance.

  • Adjustable for different terrains:
    With the ability to fine-tune weights and helix angles, riders can customize the clutch to suit various riding conditions.

  • Reduced belt wear:
    Precise belt clamping helps to minimize belt slippage, leading to increased belt lifespan.

  • Self-adjusting mechanism:
    Some P22 clutch variations feature a self-adjusting mechanism that compensates for belt wear, maintaining optimal performance over time.

  • Improved durability:
    High-quality materials and construction contribute to increased clutch longevity.



  • The P22 clutch explained by SLP's Jerry Mathews - YouTube
    Jan 20, 2022 — right yep it's like shocks like shocks and clutches everybody knows they're important nobody really tunes them and adj...
    View attachment 2166863
    View attachment 2166865
    YouTube ·
    SnoWest Magazine


  • Magnum Force™ Clutch Weight for P-22 Polaris Clutch
    SKU: magnum-polaris-p22. ... It utilizes external adjustability by means of a gun drilled and threaded center core, where mass can...

    Starting Line Products


  • Billet Aluminum Primary Clutch Cover // Polaris P-22 - Speedwerx
    Speedwerx Billet Aluminum Clutch Cover // Polaris P-22 - Boost / 9R Models * Added tower bushing material without sacrificing shi...
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Featured snippet from the web
On the P22/secondary combo for your Boost or 9R you'll lose 1lb of rotating weight, gain quicker throttle response, less overall vibration from your machine and smoother clutch operation.Nov 27, 2022
3 more lighten and balanced P22 Boost... - Chris Burandt
View attachment 2166866
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Maybe this video from SLP will increase your knowledge:

Or how about this one:

AI Overview
Learn more

The Polaris P22 clutch is praised for its improved throttle response, smoother clutch operation, reduced vibration, and better overall performance compared to standard clutches, especially in situations demanding quick acceleration and consistent power delivery, thanks to its design that allows for more precise adjustments and better belt clamping ability; this makes it a popular choice for performance-oriented riders, particularly in snowmobiles.

Key advantages of the P22 clutch include:
  • Enhanced acceleration:
    The design allows for quicker engagement, leading to a more immediate power delivery and better off-the-line performance.

  • Adjustable for different terrains:
    With the ability to fine-tune weights and helix angles, riders can customize the clutch to suit various riding conditions.

  • Reduced belt wear:
    Precise belt clamping helps to minimize belt slippage, leading to increased belt lifespan.

  • Self-adjusting mechanism:
    Some P22 clutch variations feature a self-adjusting mechanism that compensates for belt wear, maintaining optimal performance over time.

  • Improved durability:
    High-quality materials and construction contribute to increased clutch longevity.



  • The P22 clutch explained by SLP's Jerry Mathews - YouTube
    Jan 20, 2022 — right yep it's like shocks like shocks and clutches everybody knows they're important nobody really tunes them and adj...
    View attachment 2166863
    View attachment 2166865
    YouTube ·
    SnoWest Magazine


  • Magnum Force™ Clutch Weight for P-22 Polaris Clutch
    SKU: magnum-polaris-p22. ... It utilizes external adjustability by means of a gun drilled and threaded center core, where mass can...

    Starting Line Products


  • Billet Aluminum Primary Clutch Cover // Polaris P-22 - Speedwerx
    Speedwerx Billet Aluminum Clutch Cover // Polaris P-22 - Boost / 9R Models * Added tower bushing material without sacrificing shi...
    View attachment 2166864
    Speedwerx


  • Show all



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Featured snippet from the web
On the P22/secondary combo for your Boost or 9R you'll lose 1lb of rotating weight, gain quicker throttle response, less overall vibration from your machine and smoother clutch operation.Nov 27, 2022
3 more lighten and balanced P22 Boost... - Chris Burandt
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Thats from 3 years ago, more irrelevant information. I don’t see any test data or where it says they compared it to a p85.

Yet another guy post today on facebook that his Boost had the P22 grenade and he’s asking what’s needed to swap it to a p85.