[600howhat]

Ricks a good guy up here on these forums. One of the few that is up here. He sells many sleds to many members of hcs. He has a rep for fair price and excellent customer service. I highly doubt he would risk this. He is not the type of guy to sell something to someone "knowing" it is not gonna run well. I am sure with the season we have been having this was a "cheap"money deal. Not saying the sled was cheap just I'm sure the money was. I am sure it is hard to run a sled through the shop when there is no money on it. I understand the confusion since it was on his show room floor however, anyone one who knows Rick knows he would do anything to help someone out. He has offered to let myself put sleds in his showroom. Simply to help advertise them and move them at no personal gain to himself. With the only intention that if he helps us out he may earn our business. All in all I feel your pain, as I know what it's like to drive far and be disappointed. However I highly doubt Rick would knowingly do this to any member of hcs. He is also the type of guy where I am sure he will do whatever he can to help you get back up and riding.

 

[beerhunter]

Update after about 6 hours of work yesterday.

Installed new fuel filter.
Installed a new throttle body adapter boot. Old one did not appear to be damaged or leaking air but I was in there and already had the part, so I put a new one on for peace of mind.
Cleaned some very very dirty reeds.
Sealed up the bottom of the poorly designed air box. It looked like it was leaking air on the bottom. Polaris should be ashamed about the quality of these air boxes and the design to remove and reinstall.
Checked clutches.

Fired up on the second pull and I thought all was well.

Ran it in the yard after it went to 100 degrees and it still bogs down soo bad that it will not move at times.

To make it more confusing, when I pulled it back into the garage and put it on the stand it ran fine. Seems that it goes into a limp mode only when the engine is under a load, seems to run fine on the stand with the track off the ground.

:wall:

 

[iwannagofast]

If the sled was in a limp mode it would typically have the check engine light on on the dash. Not sure if u have looked at all but I would check your primary and secondary clutch for a broken spring and also make sure everything is moving and working properly.

 

[beerhunter]

If the sled was in a limp mode it would typically have the check engine light on on the dash. Not sure if u have looked at all but I would check your primary and secondary clutch for a broken spring and also make sure everything is moving and working properly.

No light has come on on the dash, I have been looking for that all along.
Both clutches are fine, we pulled them apart and looked them over.
This sled goes so limp that it won't even let me get it to the engagement rpm. If I turn it off for say 30 seconds then it will let me move it a ways. When it is on the stand with no load on the track it spins the track and revs just fine. We also tested the temp. sensor in the pipe and that is fine.

I am leaning towards a faulty ECU, fuel pressure issue, or knock sensor.

 

[iwannagofast]

I could agree with the ecu if it wasn't for the fact that the sled will rev on the stand. I am trying to run through ideas in my head. If I think of something I will post back.

 

[Red Rocket]

I am just reminding you that you said it was good to go and in fact that was pretty far from reality. You said it belonged to a friend of yours, therefore I was lead to believe you had some information about the condition and history of the machine.

Further, you knew I had a substantial drive to pick it up and you knew when I got there I would not be able to test drive it. You also knew I would not back out of the deal, due to the long drive, over a couple bogey wheels or worn slides. Does not look good from my point of view and I am just explaining what happened, nothing more, nothing less.

I have done business with Rick one time for not a small amount of money and the ending result has bounced between not satisfied and angry. I cannot gaurantee anything about anothers transaction at a business that does not belong to me and the same goes for you.

If you are into statistics, we are currently at 1 satisified friend/customer and 1 used snowmobile buyer that is far from satisfied. You should text some of your friends and have them post up to firm up your side of the equation.

Why does this post even concern you, do you own or partially own the business? If not, then please start your own thread with your opinion on how good the dealer is.

Well - add another used snowmobile buyer to Rick's fan club.:bc:

For the record, his is not my friend and I have only met him once. I only "met" him through HCSer. I am a Cdn and I drove almost 4 hours each way to buy a 2011 ProR 600 he took in on trade from yet another HCSer member. Until I arrived to pick up the sled I had never met Rick, been to his dealership or saw the sled I was buying.

I am probably one of the most particular and anal guys you will ever meet! Everything Rick said about the sled was legit and very straight forward. The sled was EXACTLY what he said it was going to be.

I would not hesitate to buy another sled from Rick and would recommend him to anyone including my Cdn friends looking for a nice cross border deal.

I get you are frustrated with your issues, but it appears you bought a used sled with no warranty. Roll the dice and take your chances, but there is no way you should be shitting on Rick and his dealership for it.

 

[beerhunter]

After hundreds of dollars trying to determine the issue with this sled, I finally found something. The fuel pickup, actually both the pickups and some line was floating around in the tank. The fuel line in the tank was in such poor condition that it was falling apart. I have not fully tested the sled on a ride but that should take care of the problem.

 

[iwannagofast]

That's what ethanol fuel will do for you. It ate the lines right out of my ferris mower this summer.

 

[applerows]

After hundreds of dollars trying to determine the issue with this sled, I finally found something. The fuel pickup, actually both the pickups and some line was floating around in the tank. The fuel line in the tank was in such poor condition that it was falling apart. I have not fully tested the sled on a ride but that should take care of the problem.

Hmmm. Check the simple stuff first I guess , eh ?
Glad you got her figgerd out.

F ethanol fuel & the plicks forcing it , corn is for eatin n makin whiskey.

 

[maydaze]

Just adding my 2 cents here...I have known Rick for the past several years now. He and his father are two of the nicest, most honest guys you will ever meet in the customer sales and service business. Whether its a snowmobile or a tractor, Rick will tell you the honest truth about what he is selling or repairing. He's not out there to make a million dollars, just a living doing what he enjoys. I would not hesitate one bit on buying a sled from Rick or letting him repair a sled ( And nobody touches my sled but me...but I would let Rick ). There are too many dealers out there just looking to make a buck off someone or have techs that can barely tie their shoes in the morning that we could talk about....but Kubeckas is not one of them.

 

[tcwhitford69]

Sorry guys- as a business owner I feel that if the sled was at your shop to sell you should make the sled right- other wise don't sell your friends sleds at your shop.

 

[maydaze]

Sorry, but if someone sells a sled for a friend, regardless if that person owns a shop or not, they are not responsbile for the condition or guarantee of the sled. They are simpy the middle man, showing that sled to another person. It is not the responsiblity of the the 'middle man' to refurbish or recondition a sled that is not his. It is the responsiblity of the buyer to check over the sled, top to bottom. Any person who purchases a sled and does not look it over with a fine tooth comb, should not be complaining one bit. If you cannot see that wheels are chewed up and slides are worn, what the hell were you looking at? The paint? Ask to speak to the owner of the sled and ask 'that' person if there are any issues with the sled. Not only do I inspect whatever I am buying top to bottom, but I check the mechanical items also...I bring a compression gauge to check the cylinders, a sled stand to start and run the sled, checking the track, clutches and engine if there is no snow, pull the dipstick to check the oil conidtion and metal filings, overall cleanliness of the engine and clutches (this tells alot on how the sled is maintained), the suspension wheels, skis and carbides....everything. Sorry but the buyer did not do his homework. Period.

 

[scooterber]

Not looking to take a side here but as a business, if you advertise and sell an item it reflects directly on you. I would never sell something without knowing the condition or backing up the sale. If this was an item sold for "a friend" Rick should have called his friend and told him that there was a buyer coming and had him deal with the actual transaction. Once you opened the doors to your registered business for a side sale you became the responsible party. I know this is an old thread and I just happened upon it but If I were the buyer, I'd be pissed. At the same time, if this is a friend, he should be dealing with the issue and making it right. I'm not really sure what the relationship is here but the word friend should mean something and you don't have a friend take a hit for you. Sorry folks but I remember the day's when a handshake meant something and people were generally honest, trustworthy and good. These days any amount of faith or trust can typically lead to a sore ass.

 

[gtxcruiser]

Doesnt sound like the sled was "trail ready". Dont make statements that are not true. It will bite you.