Great info- may be doing this on a 2022 sno check in the fall

 

Interesting. good info.
I do know Bergstrom now makes custom rubber dampers (for ski doo and polaris) that don't need shims. Essentially the rubber is thicker where the shim would be.

 

I have grippers on my VR1, used RMK ski rubbers that are shimmed, no problems.

 

Shim the rmk ski rubbers or the ultimate ski rubber dampeners. Any other choices with grippers installed on non-rmk spindles?

 

I am going to try these in my grippers this season. Rmk bumpers on top.

They sit in ski and bumpers go on top. Kinda pricey but I figured I’d give them a try.

 

I ordered an assault, changed for grippers during the ordering, will have to see what the factory throws on for rubbers.

 

They will put the skis on at the dealer.

 

Only if you negotiated that at the sale.

 

Exactly what benefits do the Grippers claim for the price.

 

The grippers are superior to the pro steer skis in all conditions. Pro steer skis are fine on hardpack trails only. Anything else they are terrible.

 

Dealer shouldn't keep them. You paid for them. I sold mine last year for $200 after I installed the Grippers.

 

Mine were the value of the Pro Steers and rubbers in the parts book subtracted and the value of the Grippers and rubbers added. So a bit more money but a much better ski.

 

I have a 2022 136 XCR ordered and have been thinking about putting gripper skis on. Is it worth the upgrade from the pro steers? I ride 70% trail and 30% off trail. Are the grippers bad on the trails? I've had multiple sleds with pro steer skis running 6 inch carbides which are not the best in fresh snow. Does Polaris even have rubbers for the gripper ski to mate up to the Matryx spindle?

 

I run grippers on my assault and my opinion is they are better in all conditions than the pro steer. I used rmk bumpers but still shimmed them. I run 10” of carbide just for durability. They are much better in late day mushy trail conditions, not much different in morning hard packed or freshly groomed trails. Off trail they are night and day better. Best example is when riding slow in deeeep fresh snow and have to turn quick the pro steer will dive making most any turn off camber. The grippers float and turn much better and getting up on top is effortless. Draw backs. Most places stock pro steer carbides. May be tougher to find replacement carbides for grippers in a pinch. This will change as more people are running them.

 

Do the pro steer carbides fit on grippers?

 

No

 

why didn't you use them?

 

Honestly I didn’t try them. If I had I might have.

 

I checked on the Source Innovation rubbers.......well to have them shipped from Canada to the US is more than the part......not worth it. $85.73 CAD is $65.82 USD

 

Call them and have them shipped by the US postal service.

 

Interesting that in the Polaris parts breakdown that they show the Gripper ski being used on the 22 XCR's and with the RMK Rubber Ski Stops, that may clear up which rubbers people need to order?

 

weird, the one I just pulled up lists the skis as pro-steer.

https://snowmobiles.polaris.com/en-us/assembly/?modelId=S22TDL8RS&assemblyId=448883

 

In some of the XCR videos on line I seen they had the grippers on the sled. And, to note, they are standard on the international version.

 

It's all about the law, or we could possible have these as a Snowcheck option!

 

have to use the RMK rubbers. and yes shim them.

 

Try this one;

https://snowmobiles.polaris.com/en-ca/assembly/?modelId=S22TDL8RS&assemblyId=448885

 

That parts page is for the INTL (International) models which are sold outside North America. These models commonly have different skis, seats, windshields and tracks.

 

We all know there are mistakes made when these parts breakdowns are put out, I was just pointing it out for the fun of it since that is really what I plan on doing anyways with the grippers, also just ordered my SnowStuds 10" Sniper runners on Saturday at Wide Open Wisconsin.

 

The rubber snubbers that are recommended for use with the Gripper skis on Matryx flatland spindles, are Polaris part# 5412794 @ $12USD. For MY22 they are used in the Matryx Flatland International sled models, about a dozen of them, including the Matryx 650 Voyager and the Matryx 650 NordicPro. You will need 2 of them.

They are NOT the same snubbers used with the Matryx mountain sleds: Kaos, Pro RMK, Slash, etc. Also NOT the ones used by most AXYS mountain sleds.

 

The rubber snubbers that seem to be recommended for use with the Gripper skis are Polaris part# 5412794 @ $12USD. For MY22 they are used in the Matryx Flatland International sled models, about a dozen of them, including the Matryx 650 Voyage and the Matryx 650 NordicProd.

They are NOT the same snubbers used with the Matryx mountain sleds: Kaos, Pro RMK, Slash, etc. Also NOT the ones used by most AXYS mountain sleds.

Excursion,

I have a 22 850 Assault on order. I ordered Gripper skis with my dealer. I also ordered the RMK rubber part # 5415230. What is the correct rubber I should be using for my new sled?

 

If you look at the Polaris parts book for your sled, the diagram for the INTL skis, shows exactly what is needed with the Gripper skis.

The rubber snubbers that are recommended for use with the Gripper skis on Matryx flatland spindles, are Polaris part# 5412794 @ $12USD. For MY22 they are used in the Matryx Flatland International sled models, about a dozen of them, including the Matryx 650 Voyager and the Matryx 650 NordicPro. You will need 2 of them.

 

That part number is what comes on axys swa 19-22.

 

Thanks for the snubber part numbers, Excursion. Have Grippers on order from Poo for my 22 Assault 146. They didn't have the snubbers in stock, but I found them online at a dealer. Will be nice to have the right parts in hand ready to go when my sled finally arrives.

 

I put grippers on my 20 Axys Assault and used the stock rubbers. Worked perfectly.

 

Matryx are different….that’s what all the confusion is about. I’m still not sure what to order

 

If I snowchecked my sled and added gripper skis as an option will I also get the stock skis with it?

 

Yes