All balaclavas are relatively similiar with different materials being used. I would recommend a thin balaclava with the no fog as the no fog will fit better with a thinner balaclava. As for goggles... I was told this and it was the best advise I ever got which is to try the goggles on with a helmet and see what combo best seals any skin/face that would be exposed to the cold/wind. It sounds like a pain in the ass to try every combonation but I will 100% guarantee it will be worth it.

My combo is a thin balaclava, no fog mask, OTG Scott Voltage X goggles (thumbs up), and a GMaxx 37X helmet.

My best advise is fit and comfort #1
Looks and fancy decals #2

 

thta's one bad ass helmet. i just bought a new helmet for this season it's a polaris demon. i also have a pair of carbon fiber oakley o frame goggles with a klim balaclava, it is a really nice one but it's kinda spendy they're like 24 bucks

 

thta's one bad ass helmet. i just bought a new helmet for this season it's a polaris demon. i also have a pair of carbon fiber oakley o frame goggles with a klim balaclava, it is a really nice one but it's kinda spendy they're like 24 bucks[/b]

Got lucky and found an Unwind balaclava. Saw them in a store. Damn they are expensive, $40.00 Canadian.

 

I would agree that you need to try on your goggles with the helmet you choose. I had a problem two years ago with my goggles not sealing around my helmet opening. I bought a different pair of Scott goggles last year with extra foam around them and they have been great. As far as the facemask. I have tried alot of them. I don't like bulky ones or ones that are so thin they don't do anything. I found this Arctic Cat one last year and it's the best I've found so far. AC facemask

 

I was just going to post this topic yesterday....lol ! Anyway, been looking at the Arctiva and Klim balaclava, and the No Fog mask myself. My goggles don't have the nose guard, so I'm looking for something to keep that area warm and protected from the wind plus offer some breath deflection.

 

We've been working on this for three seasons. If you can wait 10 more days or so the new catalog will be avail. in print and online. The last page will have the solution for the Mx/goggle users. We have a patant agreement and will be the only company that will offer this combination to snowmobilers. As a Mx/goggle user for 10 seasons I have enough experience to have designed the product and test it.
Those who say you must try the goggle and helmet together are 100% correct-our new product will tie in the rest very nicely.
So, if you can wait just a bit we can help the majority of you at a decent price.

 

We've been working on this for three seasons. If you can wait 10 more days or so the new catalog will be avail. in print and online. The last page will have the solution for the Mx/goggle users. We have a patant agreement and will be the only company that will offer this combination to snowmobilers. As a Mx/goggle user for 10 seasons I have enough experience to have designed the product and test it.
Those who say you must try the goggle and helmet together are 100% correct-our new product will tie in the rest very nicely.
So, if you can wait just a bit we can help the majority of you at a decent price.[/b]

ANy hint as to the set-up you're talkin about here ? I can wait, I just want to be prepared !

 

1. Balaclava= Klim <---great product, i have a really long neck so its alittle short on covering my neck in the back and sometimes comes out.

2. Goggles= Spy Blizzard goggles, work awesome get a few differnt pairs for low light/sunny days.

3. Helmets= anything mx style that has a removeable breath deflector, without the breath deflector your gonna have some cold ass days if you take any length of a trip.

 

I have a breath box/deflector in my dad's full face helmet, which seems sor tof pointles sbeing a full face. Anyone know if it i spossible to take that and install it into a MX helmet? I believe it just velcro's in.

 

So what's the favourite technical balaclava out there anyway ? Klim, Arctiva etc...

 

i have a turtle fur that I will probably wear with a no-fog. The turtle fur actually held up real good, i would sweat in 0 degree weather. (farenhiet)

 

OK. It's here. Click the banner, click on "headgear" and look at the first item-the Fog-evator-Clava.

 

looks like it would restrict breathing...no?

 

lol isnt Baklava that greek Pastery?

 

Looks good. If my built in breath deflector on my MX helmet doesn't work I will buy one of those.

 

No restricted breathing. The same as our FogEvator and the No-Fog mask and other similar products.
What we found, and I know many others also found is that by having the "fog treatment" attached to your skin works better than if it's attached to a helmet. The disign goal was to have the product maintain it's seal under all conditions. Now if you have the kids on a Sunday put-put it's no big deal but getting the sled in the air or really pounding a 5 mile rough stretch it becomes more important. First, as we all know, you heat up and sweat with increased activity. Second, the helmet, if you are getting "after it", will dance around a bit on your head no matter how tight the fit. Combine a moving helmet and a breath box attached to that helmet and you get a moving seal on that breathbox-which can lead to fog.

As mentioned, a good fog mask and balaclava work together well-we combined them-and got a few more benefits. First, it's easy to put on and take off. Second, we eliminate the headstrap which really improves comfort. Third, we eliminate the extra fabric over the ears where it was not needed for function but was required to provide a secure attachment point for the headstrap, which we no longer need!
I'm well aware that not every item is for every rider but we do hope our solutions will prove usefull to many.
Without snow, however, it's all just nonsense!

 

No restricted breathing. The same as our FogEvator and the No-Fog mask and other similar products.
What we found, and I know many others also found is that by having the "fog treatment" attached to your skin works better than if it's attached to a helmet. The disign goal was to have the product maintain it's seal under all conditions. Now if you have the kids on a Sunday put-put it's no big deal but getting the sled in the air or really pounding a 5 mile rough stretch it becomes more important. First, as we all know, you heat up and sweat with increased activity. Second, the helmet, if you are getting "after it", will dance around a bit on your head no matter how tight the fit. Combine a moving helmet and a breath box attached to that helmet and you get a moving seal on that breathbox-which can lead to fog.

As mentioned, a good fog mask and balaclava work together well-we combined them-and got a few more benefits. First, it's easy to put on and take off. Second, we eliminate the headstrap which really improves comfort. Third, we eliminate the extra fabric over the ears where it was not needed for function but was required to provide a secure attachment point for the headstrap, which we no longer need!
I'm well aware that not every item is for every rider but we do hope our solutions will prove usefull to many.
Without snow, however, it's all just nonsense![/b]

I want one, but damn there to spendy for me

 

lol isnt Baklava that greek Pastery?[/b]

:lol:

Yup

 

Sorry about that. We always debate the price/performance issue with a new product. Here is what we figured: better to pay a price ONE time for a item that works well as opposed to getting a lesser one at a lesser price and then buying the good one later. We call that false economy. I'm not rich and not fond of spending what I make needlessly any more than the next guy-and we try very hard to keep the false economy out of our customers pockets. That said, I'm aware that not everything is for everybody and we do thank you for looking at our offerings.

 

my only concern is the size of the eye port, looks too big as compared to the one next to it. With no exposed skin being the most important thing to an MX wearer I suppose you could stich the corners to get it to close up a bit.

 

Agree with Klim being a great product. Have tried many balaclavas and Klim has been the best i've tried so far. Thin, warm & wind resistant around the chin & neck (a must if you ride in the cold). A little spendy, but well worth the $$.

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my only concern is the size of the eye port, looks too big as compared to the one next to it. With no exposed skin being the most important thing to an MX wearer I suppose you could stich the corners to get it to close up a bit.[/b]

My thoughts exactly. What is the reasoning for having that much gap anyways? I personally like my baclava to come down to my eyebrows, to the corner of my eye socket, and tight around the bottom of my eyes as well.

 

this looks like a great product. I have used the no fog in the past and they are very functional. However, I've never liked how they feel on your face - and for that reason I dont use one.

you have eliminated every other negative aspect of the no fog mask. the only other suggestion is the mx headband.

I am thinking about buying on as my forehead on those -30 days does get cold in the mx helmet.

I currently use the hjc breath box in thier clx4 helmet and it works very well - never fog up ever and I don't have to take it off everytime my helmet comes off which is nice.

I did add a chin curtain as you get a nasty draft on those colder days.

if this system fails I would buy this fogevador in an instant.

you can tell the quality and r&d that goes into these products Jim - kudos!

 

Sory, guys. Been away for a bit. The picture you see is a prototype-a pre production run sent to us for QC. It's all we had a photo time- The production product has a smaller eyeport and no gap at all around the face-that would totally defeat the function! Welcome to our world of production meetings-prototyping-and delays! Anyway, the finished item is the real deal. I'll get some pics shortly for you all.
Jim