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Just curious why. I always liked the Rip2.

The 1.35 cobra is really a 1.25. At least that's the way the stud companies look at it.
 

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Switching between sleds one with ripsaw and one with cobra.
the ripsaw just seemed to spin all the time compared to cobra .
Both sleds studded about the same.
The ripsaw may corner a bit better?
 

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One of the guys we ride with has an IQR trail converted, was running a 1.75" track. Tried a cobra, and switched the 1.75 out for the cobra because it hooked up better on the trail. The cobras were the 1.35" version.
 

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My opinion: the 1.25" Ripsaw 2 is trash and the 1.35 Cobra is more stud friendly. Ice storm is a better track than both...
 

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The original rip saw 1.25 to me was/is an awesome trail track. When they came out with the rip saw II track, it just seemed like a step back to yesteryear in appearance and design compared to the original rip saw. But as far as cobra vs. rip saw, to me it depends on where you live. To me it seems like the cobra is a good choice for the mid west/west guys and rip saw a better fit out east/lower snow/pure trail riding.
 

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The ripsaw 2 was designed to offer the best characteristics of the original ripsaw (hardpack grip), cobra (soft snow grip) and predator (toughness). That or it was designed by Yamaha to help the Nytro turn better.

I think the rs2 1.25 a great track. I've installed 3 on past sleds, just put one on a buddies 1200 Skidoo, and ordered my 2022 snowcheck with one.

When you buy aftermarket the RS2 is cheaper than both the original ripsaw and the cobra. I think the cobra offers better performance in some areas BUT it's a softer track and doesn't hold up as well as the others. That's why I don't buy them. Some people swear their Cobras hold up great but used Cobras always show the most wear. Might be a Michigan thing?
 

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The cobra seems to be the best compromise. I do like a regular ripsaw full of studs for hardpack trails. Anything else they are terrible. The rip 2 is good with a bunch of studs and ok in the softer snow. My next trail sled will be a Storm track.
 

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I enjoyed my storm this season on my 21 650. It did seem to rob top end though, between the track and the shorter gears from polaris. I went 1.25 ice ripper this time on my 22 650 in hopes for just a bit more top end between 2.52 pitch and 1.25 track, but am aware I will give up some of the hole shot/corner to corner speed from the storm track.
 

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My opinion: the 1.25" Ripsaw 2 is trash and the 1.35 Cobra is more stud friendly. Ice storm is a better track than both...
I've had Rip2 in the 1.25" and the 1.5" and think the 1.3 Cobra provided more traction than both Rip2 tracks in the looser and or deeper snow condition days.
On hard pack trail then the choice I'd tip to the 1.5" Rip2. I prefer the 1.6" Cobra over all of them. I gotta say for the better all around trail riding needs I give a nod to the 1.5" Storm as well.

For my kind of riding I prefer a 1.75" BackCountry or Hurricane over all of those tracks.
If anybody is holding strong support of the 1.25" RIP 2 being the best all around track than I'm sure the 1.75 options aren't of any interest to them.
The RIP2 in my opinion is a strictly hard pack trail track. In any other snow conditions it suffers to the others quite significantly.
 

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I was a huge fan of the 1.75 backcountry x on my pro x even for trail riding. Kinda wish they offered this on the new XCR
 

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If anybody is holding strong support of the 1.25" RIP 2 being the best all around track than I'm sure the 1.75 options aren't of any interest to them.
Exactly. When I say I like the RS2 I am only referring to my experience on my specific sleds for the trails I ride. Every track is probably good for something... otherwise it wouldn't be made.
 

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1.6” for me and if I wanted anything shorter lugged I would snowcheck the cheapest track and swap it for an Ice attack xt. Better traction and more durable than both the ripper 2 and cobra 1.38. The way snow conditions have been I haven’t seen the need for the hurricane but would really like to try one.
 

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Love the cobra on my 02 Zr 800 great all around track ripsaw likes to trench in loose snow or off trail my 2 cents
 

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I run Cobra and Rip 2 tracks on machines with the same skid and motor. They are 2ply versions with 1.25" lugs. I've run both tracks with and without studs.

The Rip 2 is a safe all around track. I wouldn't call it stellar, but it's good. It is also durable.

The Cobra hooks up better in a lot of conditions with one big exception. Pure hard pack/icy is the one to watch. The thinner lugs will fold or bend quicker. It actually has less straight line traction than the Rip 2 in those conditions The lugs will also suffer more if you like spinning on hard pack.
I have found that studding the Cobra helps stop the wear. Studs also help the straight line holeshot performance.
I prefer the Cobra in most conditions with it's consistent traction and snow evacuation. I wouldn't run it consistently on hard pack without studs.

If I'm going to beat a track to pieces all day long, I'd run the Rip2. It would also be my choice if I ran mostly hard pack without studs.
 

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The ripsaw 2 was designed to offer the best characteristics of the original ripsaw (hardpack grip), cobra (soft snow grip) and predator (toughness). That or it was designed by Yamaha to help the Nytro turn better.
IIRC, the original ripsaw was also a yamaha design?
Anyway, I fell for the hype, and put a 136" ripsaw on my 02 xc800 to replace the stock 1.25 shockwave track that was shredded by ice buildup. I loved the hardpack traction, less impressed with its ability in looser stuff. And the increased sideways traction took away from the fun factor in the corners - less rear end powerslides and sled would just lift the inside ski. I guess this would be even more pronounced on a nytro, lol!

The rip II would probably have been better for my riding style - or simply a predator
 

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I've had Rip2 in the 1.25" and the 1.5" and think the 1.3 Cobra provided more traction than both Rip2 tracks in the looser and or deeper snow condition days.
On hard pack trail then the choice I'd tip to the 1.5" Rip2. I prefer the 1.6" Cobra over all of them. I gotta say for the better all around trail riding needs I give a nod to the 1.5" Storm as well.

For my kind of riding I prefer a 1.75" BackCountry or Hurricane over all of those tracks.
If anybody is holding strong support of the 1.25" RIP 2 being the best all around track than I'm sure the 1.75 options aren't of any interest to them.
The RIP2 in my opinion is a strictly hard pack trail track. In any other snow conditions it suffers to the others quite significantly.
so you'd prefer the 1.6 cobra for 80% trail 20% off trail? Looking to upgrade and am torn as well to staying with the 1.3 cobra or going rip 2 1.25. i don't mind going larger lug, just don't want to lose any engine cooling with the larger lug
 
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