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At the current moment I have a cabin reseved from February 17th through the 23rd and am just wondering when the best time to really go is since I still have the ability to change dates. How is the riding there in early March or late January???
 

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I went at the beginning of january last year and it was alright weather wise. We had a couple good days of riding and a couple white out conditions where it wasnt even worth it to be on a sled. Also, it wasnt that cold during the day. I guess that was my experience in beginnning of January. Otherwise the riding and terrain were excellent! I will be going back, we just havent picked a day yet.
 

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At the current moment I have a cabin reseved from February 17th through the 23rd and am just wondering when the best time to really go is since I still have the ability to change dates. How is the riding there in early March or late January???[/b]
we went out there in the middle of march some of the best riding,most of the snow is settled by then somewhat of a base,but you can find plenty of places to play that are still very deep,I liked it that time of the year,temps where in the 30's and less likly to have bad weather then. by the way my avatar is from the snowies
 

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Your avatar rocks. I hope to find some extreme terrain like no other around here and I also hope I can keep the sleds in one peice for the trip home. I am so pumped since this will be my first time out there riding. My whole winter is going to be preparing for the trip.
 

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The Snowy's are hard to judge. The best time varies year to year. Last year wasn't very good at all anytime of the year. If I were to go out and guess I would say Late January early February. But as mentioned above the weather this time of year can get nasty in an instant. Heading into March is usually pushing it unless we have a good snow year.
 

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Feburary 17th 2008 is forcasted as 15 deg, clear and calm after the 39" snowfall occuring on the 16th. Most roads are closed due to this and have been for the last 36 hours. As most out of state snowmobilers are trying to find a place in Nebraska to sleep waiting for the snow to clear, the locals in Snowy Range are having a BLAST since they can't go to work and the gas truck is snowed in at the pump.

Now down to reality,,, This time is as good as any. The best times to avoid are the Holidays if you can which account for less people. Check the alamac as it is about as accurate as anything.

See the Text attachment for snowfall for the last few years by month.

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Thanks for some more info. I think I am going to stick with the original dates. Seems to work out the best and I hope the weather cooperates for the travel. Once I am there it can dump that 39 inches cause even if I get snowed in the longer I can stay and play. Just tack another weeks vacation to it and make it a two week event.
 

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...not sure what ur sled u were gonna bring out there...but if ur bringin ur F7 out....u are gonna wanna go later in the year... feb should still have some pow..and a shorty plus 5 feet of fluff = going nowhere..

ive had no problem with my f7 sp going out in end of march and early april (this was like togwotee/and some ranges out of jackson) but ...either way..snow is set up more...and u can climb pretty much anything...takes a little more work then the big long sleds but still a blast..no comparison to the flatlands...
 

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I am going to take a F7 EXT, a F5 SP with a 1.7 lug track on it and a 01 ZR 440 SP with a 1.75 track just to beat the crap out of up there. I guess I can deal with not being able to climb everything out there, but I definatly would like to be able to play in some deep powder bowls and do some serious off trail boondocking. Around here I have found some decently deep stuff about 3-4 feet deep and seemed to do pretty good with what I had. I guess if worse comes to worse I have been debating on maybe leaving the 440 home and renting a longtrack for a few of the days to get the climbing issue out of my blood and beat the crap out of someone elses sled.
 

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I have also been thinking about buying a 99 Powder Special like maybe a 600 or 700 with a 136 inch track and 2 inch lugs or a 01 MC with a 144 also to slam the heck out of as a third sled. I definatly do want to take the Firecats though. They just are such fun machines around here that I would atleast want to give them a go out there.
 

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the ext will do all right.. all depends on the snow condtions ...if its set up mealy snow then should be lot easier..but even the big moutain sleds when its like 3 feet of fluff ontop of fluff they dont even go very far... (sleds loose power out west too.. ur 7 will be the best sled to bring out)

remember..its a lot difference going on 3 feet of snow in a big open swamp..but in the mountains u have to climb inclines...and sometimes just a small incline is like ur climbing mt everest...

it will be fun either way though dont get me wrong.. i just know it got very old after a day riding in fluff and litterally every 5-10 min getting stuck and takin 10-20 min to get unstuck... (even the big sleds were too sometimes.)

alwasy stop pointing downhill and make a cirlce and stop back in ur tracks...otherwise if its fluff u will just trench yourself when u start up again...

ive rode with renegades with 2inch paddles 144's and rev 159's in the spring and with the right snow we all can get to the same spots...some just easier and faster then others haha
 

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Yep, it should be interesting. I definatly agree it will be different riding in deep pow out there, I think if I end up getting stuck all the time then I might park the F5 and rent a sled or jump on something else. My plans had gone as follows. The F7 EXT will be my boondocker, the F5 Sno Pro will be my jumping and big air sled and the 440 or MC or whateverelse will be my shoot first ask questions later machine. Hopefully when I am out there I get the best of both worlds. Some areas of powder and some areas of setup snow. The main reason why I wouldn't want to go later is because to me for the first time riding out there I want the genuine experience. Riding hard setup snow would kinda remind me of what alot of the riding is around here. I want the ability to just submerge my sled in deep snow and ride like never before. I say this now cause I am sitting in this chair typing, but I probably wouldn't mind getting stuck often cause it should only make me a better rider with what I have and if I end up on a true longtrack I might actually be dangerous. lol
 

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If you can time it during a deep powder time you may have a little trouble around here. Also you have to think about rejetting your sleds before coming out. You will have major troubles if you don't. It is easily 8000 feet and upwards of 10000 if you climb and trust me losing power during some of the climbs here could be ugly.
 

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Riding hard setup snow would kinda remind me of what alot of the riding is around here.[/b]
When mountain riders talk of hard setup snow, it's about like the soft stuff you'd ditch bang in here or in the UP. Mountain "hard" does not equal sled staying on top of the snow and not getting stuck like windblown Midwestern snow.

Leave the F5 and 440 at home; mountains need torque and square inches of flotation of which neither of those have; bring just the F7 EXT. Once you learn how to ride in real snow, the F7 will go anywhere a Powder Special will so don't waste your money on a sled like that.

Mountain riding is 99% rider skill and 1% sled capability. Forget your flatlander ways...

Here's my F7's impersonation of a lawn dart in setup mountain snow.

 

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What did you have for a track on your F7 out west??? I only have the 1.25 right now, but have been looking for a 1.5. I have had the oportunity to by a 2.25 finger track for it, but I don't think I have the clearance and I don't want to change the drivers to 9 tooth. I like the ten tooth setup I currently have. If the 1.25 does allright out there I might just leave that on also.
 

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Don't forget clutching! Mountains are horse power robbing beasts!

ps, I do have a Speedwerx helix, weight and sec spring off my 2004 F6.....for 9K feet...it would make it scream!
 

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What did you have for a track on your F7 out west??? I only have the 1.25 right now, but have been looking for a 1.5. I have had the oportunity to by a 2.25 finger track for it, but I don't think I have the clearance and I don't want to change the drivers to 9 tooth. I like the ten tooth setup I currently have. If the 1.25 does allright out there I might just leave that on also.[/b]
Im not trying to be an jerk, but you might as well forget the 1.25" track.. Granted it is alot of rider ability like someone pointed out, but if you find yourself in any amt of powder, you are going to be struggling to do any amt of climbing.... There just isnt the enough surface area to be able to throw the snow out the back and get you going...but thats just my 2 pennies...
 

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If you know how to ride you don't need a long track. My first time out west I rode my Rev 121x1.25 and I had no problems. Granted, you won't be able to go everywhere but darn close. You really need to be able to man handle your sled and carve around in the tight spots. Plus when you do bury it you don't have to spend an hour digging it out like the guys with 14 foot long sleds, haha. I put a 121x1.625 on my Rev now and I love it. I don't need anything longer. I can throw that sled around like nobody's business, make it my bitch, if ya know what I mean. If you're not confident you can handle your sled li9ke that then more track will help.
 

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8 guys are leaving jamestown ny and n.w. pa. this morning.
heading to dubois wy. they have been going there for 12 years.
they say you do NOT go out there with nothing less than a 2"
paddle. they all have '06 attacks 1000 with 151" x 2".
if you go with anything less well i hope you like to shovel snow.
why shovel when you can float. it's a no brainer....
that's if you want to do any type of boondocking, which that's
what they do.
two weeks of shit cond. around here or two weeks of
boondocking at 11,000 ft. plus....
if you are going out west go with a group it's cheaper.
they have it broke down to $950 per person for two weeks.
that's gas and condo.
not bad for two weeks of play..........
 

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8 guys are leaving jamestown ny and n.w. pa. this morning.
heading to dubois wy. they have been going there for 12 years.
they say you do NOT go out there with nothing less than a 2"
paddle. they all have '06 attacks 1000 with 151" x 2".
if you go with anything less well i hope you like to shovel snow.
why shovel when you can float. it's a no brainer....
that's if you want to do any type of boondocking, which that's
what they do.
two weeks of shit cond. around here or two weeks of
boondocking at 11,000 ft. plus....
if you are going out west go with a group it's cheaper.
they have it broke down to $950 per person for two weeks.
that's gas and condo.
not bad for two weeks of play..........[/b]
 
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