Not one person so far on this post has brought up how dumb they are. Not sure what your reading???ha I love posts about cans, its fun to hear everybody cry about how dumb THEY think they are, if you don't like them then go suck an egg because you not answering the question. Get Mbrp I should be getting my new one in the next couple days, i had one on my old sled too and it sounded great.[/b]