Mine has top end all over my neighbors 2011 Apex all the way across the lake! How far it is out ahead is determined by how long we stay in the gas. I just keep on pulling away further and further the longer we goo. I can also pull away from the 800's on top too. If the CFR800 HO is out ahead from a better holeshot, I can drive around him too with my 1200 Renegade on very hardpack trail conditions. Makes no sense to me with a 16" wide 137" long 1.25" ripsaw track against the CFR's 14" wide 1" lug hacksaw. My 1200 just flat out hauls the mail. It is broke in well and all I've done is tighten the throttle cable so it pulls wide open (was only pulling about 3/4 open stock), installed MBRP header, Cudneys full PB80 kit and did my own extra silencer outlet pipe mod on the stock can. If my turbo 1100 Cat never showed, I'd be perfectly happy riding the 1200. Sure seems to be making more than 150 HP with this combo. I have it spinning right at the rev-limiter of 8500. I think it would be even faster with the RB3 and allowed to run even higher R's, like 8700-8800. May need it we are now going to work over the neighbors 2011 Apex with Ulmers PCV fuel controller and an airbox mod, Should add 9-10 HP to the Apex. We'll see how this stacks up against the 1200 this season. Either way the 1200 is a great machine!The 1200 is not a top end sled and Mike never said that... The 1200 is also not that great on ice as well. The Apex and Cat will take it on top end... I guess if thats your deal to run lakes all day, then the 1200 is not your sled unless you turbo... But on snow it will run or beat with bigger hp sleds to a 100mph.... 1000ft.... And I have owned a modded Apex and Modded Nytro, so I know how they run...