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I have been thinking about a 1200 renegade, but I am getting mixed answers on how fast these are. I only know 1 person besides a salesman with seat time on one. He said lots of power but he was in trails were he could not go over 60 mph. A sales guy today said there a tourqey 600 and that a stock 800 will kill them in a race. Others say there as fast as a 800 until top end. I know HP is down compared to 800s, but does the tourqe make up for it?
 

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stock its a 95 - 100 mph sled; speaking from my experience on my 2011 1200 TNT

smooth motor with alot of torque

came from a 600 etec
 

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it beats the 600's.

it beats some 800's.

ive seen 98.6mph with just over 150 miles on the sled. this winter i know it will break 100mph easily.
 

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I have been thinking about a 1200 renegade, but I am getting mixed answers on how fast these are. I only know 1 person besides a salesman with seat time on one. He said lots of power but he was in trails were he could not go over 60 mph. A sales guy today said there a tourqey 600 and that a stock 800 will kill them in a race. Others say there as fast as a 800 until top end. I know HP is down compared to 800s, but does the tourqe make up for it?
How much power are you looking for? I see you have a IQ 600. The 1200 will be faster and more responsive than your Polaris. I've owned lots of powerful sleds over the years. ZRT 800's and ZR 700's and 800's, Yamaha Apex. My 1200 feels every bit as fast as all those sleds. Its a blast corner to corner and has gobs of torque when climbing hills. I think you will be pleasantly surprised with the performance of the 1200 Doo.
 

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I had a 2010 Tnt 1200 for last season. I saw 115mph on the speedometer on one of the first rides out with a super clean clutch and a new belt. The rest of the season. Mostly 110-105mph. Out of the whole its a rocket. It will wip a 600 no problem.
 

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All things that i want to hear. Seams like the dealers want to push the etecs, i would love one, but do not trust the isoflex bearings for the miles i will put on in a few years of riding. The last sled that i had that i was happy with the power and speed was a 2000 XC700SP. The 600s are good until lakes, where with my weight and a head wind seams like i have to really hold it to maintain the 80 mph range.
 

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All things that i want to hear. Seams like the dealers want to push the etecs, i would love one, but do not trust the isoflex bearings for the miles i will put on in a few years of riding. The last sled that i had that i was happy with the power and speed was a 2000 XC700SP. The 600s are good until lakes, where with my weight and a head wind seams like i have to really hold it to maintain the 80 mph range.
Thats the nice thing about the 4 stroke engine. The torque of the engine will pull hard no matter the conditions. When you ride double or into a head wind a 2 stroke 600 will lose power, not so with a 4stroke. The 4 stroke will pull just as hard riding double or riding single. The 1200 has a huge powerband and always feels like its right in the middle of it. Another nice thing is you can run any kind of gas in the 1200 and it will perform fine. There is nothing finicky about the 1200 engine, it runs spot on all the time.:bc2:
 

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I had a 2010 Tnt 1200 for last season. I saw 115mph on the speedometer on one of the first rides out with a super clean clutch and a new belt. The rest of the season. Mostly 110-105mph. Out of the whole its a rocket. It will wip a 600 no problem.
1200 Gade 115??? You must have pushed it out the back of an airplane. :ermm:
 

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i hit 106mph speedo and 98.6mph gps. for a gade with a cobra track.

if i had the ripsaw id probably get more out of it.

but its a rocket out of the hole.
 

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i hit 106mph speedo and 98.6mph gps. for a gade with a cobra track.

if i had the ripsaw id probably get more out of it.

but its a rocket out of the hole.
My buddys 1200 4tec "shorty" was consistently pulling 103 on gps with 109-11 on the dreamometer. Surprisingly quick out of the hole!
 

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sounds like top end will be good enough for me. How well will they keep up accelaration wise to A 800? Iam not talking ones with clutch work, just like say a box stock F8? I really like the idea that when Iam trailriding i can pull up to the pump and be safe putting 87 in. ust seams like the saleman want to stear me to an ETEC.
 

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My buddys 1200 4tec "shorty" was consistently pulling 103 on gps with 109-11 on the dreamometer. Surprisingly quick out of the hole!
nice. my buddy has a 1200 x shorty. last year it was used only in isr stock racing. it was fast. i mean crazy fast. usually placed 1-2 in the 800 class.

sounds like top end will be good enough for me. How well will they keep up accelaration wise to A 800? Iam not talking ones with clutch work, just like say a box stock F8? I really like the idea that when Iam trailriding i can pull up to the pump and be safe putting 87 in. ust seams like the saleman want to stear me to an ETEC.
i can keep up to 800s in the trails. your 1200 will actually handle better.

and no worries about 87. used it all winter and not 1 problem. it runs awesome on it.
 

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sounds like top end will be good enough for me. How well will they keep up accelaration wise to A 800? Iam not talking ones with clutch work, just like say a box stock F8? I really like the idea that when Iam trailriding i can pull up to the pump and be safe putting 87 in. ust seams like the saleman want to stear me to an ETEC.
You won't be sorry at all if you get a 1200. You are gonna say I should of done it sooner. Good Luck :thumbsup:
 

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I'm on a 800 etec for this season. I really wish I was back on a 1200 this season.. There fun sleds.. a lot of people knock on them but there usually people who have never driven them.
 

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1200 w/4000 miles

mine does 102 all day.
 

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Mine ran 103 on gps can't remember what the speedo said,my brothers 600 e-tech will hole shot me but I will run him down and pass him. Both arte renegades mines a 2010 his is a 2011.
 
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