extra tall is much better then the tall. cold wind goes right over my head

 

Heres the windshield differences.
Mid Dark tint
Tall medium tint
Extra Tall Clear
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Mid
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Tall
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Extra Tall
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Heres a better picture of the size differences
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I have tall Polaris and tall powermadd.
Ran powermadd last weekend for first time.
I found wind actually pushing my back towards windshield at higher speeds!!
Powermadd probably 6” taller.
Get you a picture of the two later today
The Polaris tall wind hits me in chest area making for cold rides when it gets around 10 or below.
Powermadd hits my trailer top so I have to remove.
Love the new matryx design.

 

That would be awesome if you could. Do you think Powermadd offers more hand protection vs tall Polaris?
Oddly, first sled I've ever been this cold on, thought tall would be enough.
Thank you to everyone that chimed in.

 

I'm running the FULL COVERAGE windshield, love it Wouldn't trade it for anything! But I love big windshields, and not getting cold. It's 4" Wider each side, and 4" Taller than the TALL windshield that I ordered the sled with in 22.

 

I got the cobra 20" (tallest) and I really like it. only down side is it take a extra tall cover

 

also done with the low shields. Got the "super tall" on both my axys and pro-ride assaults and the tall on my 2015 Adv.

Think problem is not so much ht of the Polaris one but more it's shape (doesn't have much of a straight up section at the top vs Axys version).

Have yet to try a matryx, , but I prefer the more straight up shields. Hate the swept back doo style shields, like on my 2009 Doo GTX 1200. The windblast from that screen right into my helmet has clearly taken a toll on my hearing
(pic for illustration, not mine)

 

For what its worth, I have been running the tall SkiDoo windshield on my Gen 4 wide body.

Eleven days ago put on a medium 20 inch Power Madd on the sled. Today is day 10 in Quebec and have done 2,000 miles so far and I love the Power Madd. I find it warmer as do others who drove my sled. The 20 inch is quite high and much more vertical. The 22 inch tall would be in my line of vision. Very stylish. Love it.

 

Powermadd tall
Polaris tall

 

Powermadd tall
Polaris tall

Thank you for taking the time to post. Looks like PM windshield is north of 4" taller with a hair more hand protection. Almost looks like PM medium might be a good choice as well.

 

thanks for the pics
no brainer if your going to go for it grampa-style lol, the PM is the one
kinda like the graphic too, not horrible by any means

 

My girlfriend's old Indy had a powermad medium and it offered good wind protection..it's more upright so it deflects the wind above you. I was thinking of trying one for my matryx.

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would have been interesting to hear why polaris choose to go with the typical "doo style" swept back shields on the matryx.

Gotta say I prefer both the looks and function of the more upright axys style shields...

 

^ Agreed.
Windshield, tall Powermadd is on B/O so ordered a mid in the hope it's more squared off top and flare will get me closer to being warm.

 

Please let us know when you get it.

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Good morning.
Ended up with the PowerMadd mid which measures a hair over 2 inches taller vs Polaris tall. Visually, looks like better protection but during 1200kms of riding this week I was actually colder than ever. So now I`m thinking it`s a combo of my age and meds tossing me under the bus but got the idea to trade with my son for a few miles (`21 Axis XCR Polaris tall shield). Well I`ll be dammed if in spite of no handlebar muffs like I run, my hands were warming a little but big improvement in my overall warmth. No freaking way, can`t be possible, rode it about 20 minutes before stopping, Ross immediately off my sled complaining he`s frozen from top to bottom. He`s never cold so feedback like that meant alot especially when he went from comfortable to uncomfortably cold in such a short time. We talked over lunch and have some observations. Part of the problem, PM windshield is more upright plus about 2-3 inches further out front of the handlebars. While it does shield you from the direct wind better it creases back draft. Enough so that it`s actually blowing air in the back edges of the handlebar muffs (take glove off while riding, inside feels like a wind tunnel). Second, previous day we had lots of fresh snow, my legs were soaked pretty much to my knees. Same trail, Axys was not seeing snow blowing up and around his legs so one would assume it`s partially blocked footwells are also cutting down on wind. Not sure what this totally open running board idea is all about on a trail sled.
Next move, back to original tall shield and make some sort of block off plates for the foot wells extending rearward to approx back of my boot.
To me this is the coldest sled I`ve ever owned, period. Rode my previous Pro S in the -30s and below never once having an issue staying warm enough. Again, keep thinking back to all the posts about warmest sled I`ve ever owned before purchasing.............what the heck. Keep in mind, I otherwise love this sled. The ride, the ultra smooth engine n killer good looks are amazing but if your not warm enough what does that part matter.
Upside, part of my staying warm plan included a new helmet. Tried on a Mission, nice piece but not the helmet for me but did pull the trigger on a CKX Contact. Wow is it quiet and warm, fits comfy like you`ve owned it for years and electric shield is more than up to the task. Don`t care much for the flip down shield but hey thats just me. Bonus when you get to the check out and it`s also easy on the wallet, home run.

 

Tall Powermadd for the win!!
After several zero or below rides this windshield is a huge improvement!!
Hands stay warm without gauntlets and head and chest area nice and warm!!

 

UPDATE
After more riding and holding my hand out to get an idea of where all the winds coming from I've found at least a good amount of it is actually coming up from below. Kid you not, straight up from the very open running boards. I made templates to close off from front of the toe holds to just behind my boots. Next was transferring the shape over to black roof flashing tin then drilling a few rivets out and sliding them between the tunnel braces and the edge of the belly pan then re riveting into place. Did have to drill two additional holes at the back edge to secure but spaced like the others so can't tell from stock.
Results, feet and mid to upper body a good bit warmer (I was previously warm enough but now on milder days you can actually feel the heat off the engine, big change) plus without wind swirling around it's also quieter at speed. As for my hands, while I'm not toasty warm yet it's made a difference you can feel. My brother has the same sled, last Sunday he hit slush while crossing the lake, open boards saw him soaked to the knees. Will be doing his the same.

 

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UPDATE
After more riding and holding my hand out to get an idea of where all the winds coming from I've found at least a good amount of it is actually coming up from below. Kid you not, straight up from the very open running boards. I made templates to close off from front of the toe holds to just behind my boots. Next was transferring the shape over to black roof flashing tin then drilling a few rivets out and sliding them between the tunnel braces and the edge of the belly pan then re riveting into place. Did have to drill two additional holes at the back edge to secure but spaced like the others so can't tell from stock.
Results, feet and mid to upper body a good bit warmer (I was previously warm enough but now on milder days you can actually feel the heat off the engine, big change) plus without wind swirling around it's also quieter at speed. As for my hands, while I'm not toasty warm yet it's made a difference you can feel. My brother has the same sled, last Sunday he hit slush while crossing the lake, open boards saw him soaked to the knees. Will be doing his the same.

Nice. Pics?

 

I have the tall windshield and have noticed the back draft as well. I seem to get a noticeable amount of exhaust back draft, also riding in powder - sometimes I'll have a cloud of powder swirling behind the windshield. Like riding in a cloud.

 

Factory or Powermadd?

I too seem to be getting more exhaust smell. I've always had taller windshields so maybe the open running boards are the problem?

 

^ Exactly that.
Will see if I can get a minute to post pics later.

 

Please do, I too have noticed that my toes get cold on frigid days like you say age & meds. I have Baffin -70 boots so I am interested in your hack. Noticed the same as you switched to a 2016 ProS with tall windshield and i was noticeably warmer especially my fingers and toes after a short 15 minute ride.

 

Exactly what I experienced swapping over to my son's '21 XCR (Axys) with Polaris tall.

 

There are a couple new Polaris windshields out this year. One is much taller than the previous. More like the powermadd. They have what they call the Alaskan also. Very wide and tall. And the one with the auxiliary light in it.

 

So consensus is the open running boards are a big factor in backdraft and creating a cold air draft and pocket on the matryx?
Does Blocking the openings in the front section of running boards as described make a noticeable improvement to riding comfort?

 

So consensus is the open running boards are a big factor in backdraft and creating a cold air draft and pocket on the matryx?
Does Blocking the openings in the front section of running boards as described make a noticeable improvement to riding comfort?

I agree and also when in deep powder it builds up on the chain case side and in no time my boot will not fit so I have a stick to clear area. I will be filling in foot portion with carpet and zip ties in off season.

 

Another thing to check, plastic belly pan on mine did not fit snug (1/4" or hair more gap) to the tunnel on left side ahead of the footwell. Pushed butyl rubber into the gap to seal off.

 

As you can see, trimmed to match factory cut outs.

 

You do excellent work!!! You should make up some more sets of them and sell them if you still have the template and extra roof tin. I would buy a set

 

Comparison of factory tall vs Cobra medium. While the PM is taller up the center it's a tic over 3" narrower across your hands. It also sits a bunch further forward vs factory shield which increased back draft but a good bit.

 

Is the cobra medium windshield much better than the polaris factory tall? Does it make a big difference in back draft and warmth or is the fix mainly with the running boards openings blocked off?