[fossilfueled]

As a Cat 900 owner with their Logo tattooed to my butt I have to say that the APEX GT is very tempting. Very tempting indeed! :banghead: They have come as close to motorcycle precision in engineering, fit and finish as anyone yet in this industry. Low to the ground, great seating, that fits a big guy, and all the high tech stuff at about a price you would expect for a cutting edge sled. I had a chance to demo one at Hay day’s as many of you may have, all be it in the dirt, I could find no fault. The engine was certainly satisfying enough at 90 degrees in the dirt even for a 900 guy like myself. Granted some trail time is needed and I plan to find one this winter on the trial. The engineering prowess really shows when you set a Firecat Crossfire and an Apex side by side. $9,799.00 for a Cat 700 three years into production motor snowmobile, are they smoking weed? :drunk: As a Cat fan I can only hope they have been working overtime in Thief River for several years and will drop counter measures this winter or yes, my Grandmother may be for-sale next season! :augen41:

 

[Greg B.]

that will be an inpressive sled this year. Road with one last year and it handles very similar to a zr with out all of the ski lift in the cornors. They did a good job on that sled.

 

[vince]

I really like the Attak, but I was asked not jump ship because what I want is coming.
That's why I ordered an 05 900 EFI SP today, I'll have a fast railing two stroke to keep for a while and next year I'll have my 136" 140+ HP fourstroke, with the logo that's tatooed to fossil's ass.

 

[Guest]

Im really surprised sooo many non yamaha people are impressed with the new apex...

All my friends ride Cat mostly, and i really like the ZR sleds... my buddy just bought a 05 zr900 after having many 500s,600s, and 800s, and he was really impressed by my 04 warrior that had major mods to make it handle good (doesnt handle good out of the box) he really loved the sled but didnt like the weight... but ive been hearing nothing but praises about the new Apex...

Im, glad everyone likes it... MY new APEX GT just showed up and im picking it up on friday..

Brian

 

[vince]

Originally posted by 1BadRxwarrior@Sep 13 2005, 10:16 PM
Im really surprised sooo many non yamaha people are impressed with the new apex...

Brian
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There nice looking sleds and they are fast for four strokes :div20: Cat better have a 140HP 136" sled for 07 or I will be jumping ship :doh: it hurts to say that.

 

[FreezerBurnt]

Originally posted by Vince@Sep 13 2005, 10:22 PM
There nice looking sleds and they are fast for four strokes :div20: Cat better have a 140HP 136" sled for 07 or I will be jumping ship :doh: it hurts to say that.
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cough cough

Crossfire 700 140hp +136 track is already a 06 model

Unless you meant you want a 140hp 4 stroke :dunno:

 

[vince]

Originally posted by Vince@Sep 13 2005, 10:22 PM
There nice looking sleds and they are fast for four strokes :div20: Cat better have a 140HP 136" sled for 07 or I will be jumping ship :doh: it hurts to say that.
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Originally posted by FreezerBurnt@Sep 13 2005, 11:30 PM
cough cough

Crossfire 700 140hp +136 track is already a 06 model

Unless you meant you want a 140hp 4 stroke :dunno:
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Yea, I meant four stroke. I thought about the CF7 but for what I would want to use a 136" sled for I'll wait for the four stroke.

 

[mainecat]

The ZR900 EFI is probably THE BEST 2 stroke on the market.

 

[nhsledatvrider]

Yeah the New Yamaha's are deffinitly an A grade snowmobile. Well built and will last a lifetime. Dont know if its the bump buster Yamaha wants us to believe but it is no doubt good enough to keep up with anything unless the mogles get down right beastly.

You do pay a hefty price though... :banghead:

 

[tallcool 1]

Originally posted by Vince@Sep 13 2005, 09:22 PM
There nice looking sleds and they are fast for four strokes :div20: Cat better have a 140HP 136" sled for 07 or I will be jumping ship :doh: it hurts to say that.
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This is what I've been saying since the Attaks were introduced last year. It's the first sled that actually got me to run down to the dealer to check it out in years. They're all that and a bag of chips! I've been riding Cat since '81, but will have no problem (except leaving my dealer, which might be enough to keep me on a Cat no matter what because he's awesome) switching to a Yammi. That Attak is what I've been wanting for the past 3 years, since I longtracked my ZR. Even though I believe Cat will release something similar to the Attak sometime this season, my dealer said he spoke with Cat and D&D guys at Haydays, and he believes Cat's going to stay with the turbo 660's for another season or so. He said the cost to tool up operations for a new sled are a little out of reach right now with how the sled business has been for the past few years. :dunno:

 

[PushawZr9]

It's definately better looking than the previous ones, but with little wind protection by the looks. Sno-tech said it was the best groomed trail sled they have ridden to date. Glad to hear some of you got a chance to try one and verify they now handle through the corners. I thought the rear suspensions were horrible with too much ski lift, but by the sounds they have it licked finally. I would expect big numbers in sales for them this year as it has certainley peaked allot of attention. Cat really screwed themselves with putting out a stagnant line up.

 

[Greg B.]

hey 1BadRxwarrior, Not bash your sled it is a good sled but the attack makes a stock warrior feel like a tank. You will probbly fall in love with the attack/apex. This is the first time I have ever been impressed with yamaha's line up. O and the factory guys were really cool about answering questions and what not when I met them. Thumbs up to them.

 

[128jetsnake]

How much for the old lady???

 

[03900bigiron]

HARDCORE CAT GUY HERE.BLEED GREEN FOR MANY YEAR'S.LOVE MY 03 ZR 900.MIGHT SELL,MIGHT JUST KEEP.BEST CAT I EVER HAD.CAT HAD TO COME OUT WITH SOMETHING TO TOP THE 03 ZR 900 FOR ME TO BUY, THEY DID NOT..I NEEDED SOMETHING NEW.I BOUGHT A 06 APEX ER IN RED FOR $9000.00 WITH A COVER AND 144 STUD'S INSTALLED OTD AND NO TAX CAUSE OF OUT OF STATE.ALL THAT HIGH- TEC YAMAHA FOR THAT PRICE? MY 10 YR CAT DEALER CAN'T MAKE ME ANY HAPPIER EVEN AT A SUPER DISCOUNT...SORRY CAT,YAMAHA GOT ME THIS YEAR...AL...JUST LOOK AT IT..!!!

 

[fossilfueled]

Originally posted by Tallcool 1@Sep 14 2005, 01:32 PM
This is what I've been saying since the Attaks were introduced last year.  It's the first sled that actually got me to run down to the dealer to check it out in years.  They're all that and a bag of chips!  I've been riding Cat since '81, but will have no problem (except leaving my dealer, which might be enough to keep me on a Cat no matter what because he's awesome) switching to a Yammi.  That Attak is what I've been wanting for the past 3 years, since I longtracked my ZR.  Even though I believe Cat will release something similar to the Attak sometime this season, my dealer said he spoke with Cat and D&D guys at Haydays, and he believes Cat's going to stay with the turbo 660's for another season or so.  He said the cost to tool up operations for a new sled are a little out of reach right now with how the sled business has been for the past few years.  :dunno:
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Referring to the Haydays quote above, do you believe that history repeats itself? Remember Cat in 1996 or so when their great marketing geniuses said there was no market for a 700! 600cc was where it was at. Why, because Cat did not foresee that the lower market share 700 would become the higher market share rider of the future. :doh: Well caught with their head in the sand so deep that they were forced to reintroduce a 700 slug to buy time to get the 800 ready. The sled was an insult to 700 ZR owners like myself at that time, which until they discontinued it, was one of the finest performance sleds made. Well ahead of its time.

Then in 2001 they nailed the market with the ZR-800 and nailed it again in 03 with the ZR-900 and 700 Firecats all be it a little rough around the edges with the Firecat and we have been happy. Now in 2006 almost exactly 10 years later we find ourselves almost with the same talk as back then only now it is their belief that 700cc two strokes is where it is at? :doh: Will 1000cc 2 and or even bigger 4 strokes become the higher market share in the future? Being a Babyboomer, you can take it to the bank. My only hope is that the comment at Haydays above is wrong as what we see next year will have been in development for at least 3 years. The 900 motor is the two stroke standard, however Cat does not have the luxury of waiting another three years to satisfy their 900 owners like myself with just BNG's. :dunno:

 

[lastzrt]

Originally posted by fossilfueled@Sep 15 2005, 06:55 PM
Referring to the Haydays quote above, do you believe that history repeats itself? Remember Cat in 1996 or so when their great marketing geniuses said there was no market for a 700! 600cc was where it was at. Why, because Cat did not foresee that the lower market share 700 would become the higher market share rider of the future.  :doh:   Well caught with their head in the sand so deep that they were forced to reintroduce a 700 slug to buy time to get the 800 ready. The sled was an insult to 700 ZR owners like myself at that time, which until they discontinued it, was one of the finest performance sleds made. Well ahead of its time.

Then in 2001 they nailed the market with the ZR-800 and nailed it again in 03 with the ZR-900 and 700 Firecats all be it a little rough around the edges with the Firecat and we have been happy. Now in 2006 almost exactly 10 years later we find ourselves almost with the same talk as back then only now it is their belief that 700cc two strokes is where it is at?  :doh: Will 1000cc 2 and or even bigger 4 strokes become the higher market share in the future? Being a Babyboomer, you can take it to the bank. My only hope is that the comment at Haydays above is wrong as what we see next year will have been in development for at least 3 years. The 900 motor is the two stroke standard, however Cat does not have the luxury of waiting another three years to satisfy their 900 owners like myself with just BNG's. :dunno:
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Well stated!

 

[vince]

07 is going to be the year of the Cat, and not just because it's wishfull thinking on my part, but because it's EPA time, there should be an impressive four stroke for 07 starting with the mid season release in January.

Have faith :beerchug:

 

[strangeland2]

Originally posted by Vince@Sep 13 2005, 09:53 PM
I really like the Attak, but I was asked not jump ship because what I want is coming.
That's why I ordered an 05 900 EFI SP today, I'll have a fast railing two stroke to keep for a while and next year I'll have my 136" 140+ HP fourstroke, with the logo that's tatooed to fossil's ass.
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Originally posted by Vince@Sep 13 2005, 11:22 PM
There nice looking sleds and they are fast for four strokes :div20: Cat better have a 140HP 136" sled for 07 or I will be jumping ship :doh: it hurts to say that.
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thats pretty much my outlook also and i love cat but with the price of the 660 already at $9300 how much is the big fourstroke that we all want going to cost? there are several posts of people getting yamahas for almost the same price of the 660s so unless cat drops the price of the 660 and puts the big 4 stroke in that price range i might be moving to a yamaha regardless of what cat releases lets hope for competive hp with a competive realistic price