we figured the hill would be full of people so we dropped at cliff's in alder creek. rode from there south towards barneveld , swung around to westernville, up to west lyden. highmarket and mcgoldrick's truck trail. unfortunately we were stopped from going towards talbots due to a fatality on the trail. never good to hear that. so sorry for the family. we ended up going to cville , and got gas. crossed the road towards boonville. through boonville, a little ways down the towpath , turned left towards adirondack sport shop. end up going to otter lake , back down to white lake, on to woodgate, forestport and back to cliff's. needed more so back towards westernville for a while a different way. came back and left. 140 miles. the hill was going to be huge bumps and there was a ton of traffic. the lower thinner stuff was awesome. the stuff we did ride at the hill was sick.