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I should have posted this question before I posted a similar one regarding adding a reverse to my sled...

I'm new to sledding for the most part and I have a question for you vets: A reverse gear: Is it REALLY needed or not?

Obviously I can see the bonus when trailering or getting into a stick... but other than that.. what are your thoughts? Is it worth the extra expense to either buy a sled with a reverse already installed, or modify a sled that didn't originally come with one (if you can modify)?

For me, it would be great for my ailing back and trailering. My trailer isn't currently setup for an in-out operation, but since it already needs a new floor installed, I plan to refit it with a forward ramp when I replace the floor. I can then drive in and out. My trailer already has a tilt-bed, so most of the battle is already done.
As far as my bad back... well, as most of you on here already know.. there are some things (like sledding) that you simply won't give up no matter the cost to your body! LOL! It's the push/pulling on my sled if I get stuck that has me a little worried. I'm not sure how much a reverse helps in backing out of a stick either. I'm guessing that has a lot to do with your track and how well it can grab?

I have a couple of sleds, a 92' Phazer 2 and a 92' Exciter 2. Neither came with a reverse, but apparently you can add it to the Phazer with the right chain-case and a little modifications. I'm not sure about the Exciter. It's a water-burner, so there's all that extra hardware under the hood, so I'm not really looking to reverse it. My Phazer on the other hand, only has 600 miles on it. It's practically new, so I intend on keeping it a while.
I have found a few sources for a reverse chain-case, but not entirely sure about the cost and work to put it in, thus the reason I wanted to ask this in the forum.

Thank you!
 

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Reverse, seldom if ever any use if your stuck. Once you have one with rev, you'll be surprised how many times you'll actually use it.
 

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I rode for years without a reverse and my last 3 sleds now have had reverse. I don't personally use it that much or get into a situation where it would even be handy. I tend to always park or put myself in a position where I don't need it. Probably because I rode for over 20 years without one. As far as being able to back out of a stuck situation, that probably isn't going to happen. The skis tend to dig in and prevent backing up if you are buried that much.
 

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Problem with reverse is the misconception that it will help you when you are in a jam. It will not it is simply a novelty item to back off trailer out of garage etc. As others have said useless if stuck, will not get you out. When everyone first thinks of reverse they think of all the times they had to wrestle stuck sled, well guess what you still have to wrestle stuck sled reverse is not going to help with that. Reverse is just a small convienance that is wonderful to have but is not a lifesaver by no means at all.
 

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I would not buy a sled without reverse again. as said they are really no good when you
get stuck. In my case though even with a drive on/off trailer I tend to just back out of
it. I also ride mostly from home, I have 1 of my garage stalls dedicated to vintage stuff
where I can pull them in, put them on dollys, spin them around and be ready to head out. this also requires scraping snow and ice from the floor. I have another smaller bay dedicated to newer sleds, pull them in, back them out no matter how much ice
buildup on the floor. I can start the heat to melt it. the 3rd bay houses the daily driver. the truck and trailer sit in the barn hooked up together if I plan on using them.
I reverse a lot, motels, how many times have you seen rows of sleds lined up at
them? they either backed them in or have to back them out. trail u-turns I see alot
of people do that especially older folks that don't want to get stuck.
 

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get yourself some hernia surgery and see how nice reverse is. one less time yanking on that bumper could make the difference...
 

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Reverse has never helped me in any situating besides turning around when your seasonal road turns into a plowed road. You can make a 3 point turn. If your stuck it doesn't help. If you try to back up on fresh snow that isn't packed. You usually start pushing snow with the snowflap and it gets sucked into the track and you rip it off if your not careful. So with this experience i would not go through the effort of converting an older sled. +1 for the electric start. Its a back/shoulder saver specially on an 800 sled. I own't own a sled without electric start.
 

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It will do nothing at all if your stuck but make pulling it out more of a pain. I basically use mine to get off the trailer/garage. I hardly ever use it when actually riding I just don't put myself in a spot were I have to use reverse. If you have a drive on/off trailer don't waste the time or money just extra weight.
 

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Get stuck more times in reverse than forward as they tend to dig a hole and drive right in. Now with a torn L2-L3 I don't pick up much of anything so parking lot and loading unloading is nice. Just like E-start is just nice to have.

For getting unstuck I carry a nylon strap come a long in a fanny pack along with a three hooked tow strap. Don't take much to unstick a sled and like I said I cant lift much.
 

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U don't really need it but it is nice and I will never own a sled with out again. I have added to a few sleds in my day . the vintage of yours should be pretty cheep in used parts to do.
like stated not much help if stuck . but if u are in the woods and hook a tree it can get u that little bit to un wedge and trench in a bit roll over sled and un hook. if in the mountains and u are heading down way to fast u can floor it in rev to try to trench in and slow down .
 

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After having it ab out 5 years ago, I now wouldn't buy a sled without it.

I ride quite a bit on unmaintained trails and I use reverse a lot to work around downfall (lots of it this year due to windstorms this summer & Fall) or just to turn around. Also to back into the building where I store them after a ride. It would be a serious negative to me to be without it.

I also have electric start which is also nice/convenient, but could live without that a lot easier than being without reverse.

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Wow guys.. thanks for the excellent replies and advice! This is why I'm asking!
That's very interesting about the reverse not really helping when getting stuck. I think a person naturally thinks of reverse like your car or truck and how you get yourself out of a stick. I've actually had 2 spinal fusions, so yea... this is why I am considering a reverse to make sledding life a bit easier. I'm just trying to justify the cost to put one in, etc.

And I completely agree.. Electric start all the way! Thank the maker both of mine have electric start! I tried pulling my Exciter over manually and although it starts on the first 2-3 pulls.. wow. still hurts!

A non-e-start reminds me of a friend's old Maco motorcycle. Anyone remember those? I think they were Czechoslovakian? maybe German...? Well, if you do.. 'nuff said! His old bike was known for bruising and sometimes breaking your foot if it kicked-back when trying to start it. The compression was INSANE... I don't know if a sled can kick-back similar to that, but if it ever did.. OUCH! E-start is the only way! Well worth it.
 

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It's like 4wd on your truck, if you don't use it for work. Unnecessary 98% of the time but it sure is nice to have during that other 2%
 

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BTW I have reverse and electric start on both of my sleds. Knowing what reverse will and won't do is the most important part. You definitely will not regret having reverse. Just don't expect a lifesaver because of reverse, ain't gonna happen.
 

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Reverse is a must on a new sled. I use it frequently. Back off the trailer, back into the garage, pull up to a gas pump and back away back onto the snow.
And I have used it when stuck. Pack the snow down in front and behind the sled, clear the snow from under the running boards and belly pan and rock it back and forth to drive out.
I probably wouldn't add it to an old sled if I couldn't get the cost back when I sold it, but it is unlikely I would even buy a sled that didn't have reverse.
My 3 sleds all have the reverse in the chaincase, but the new 2 strokes are all setup with the engines that run backwards, so there really isn't any added weight. The only downside I saw with my 06 Fusion was the secondary would clunk and I believe that was due to the reverse. But then again, just about every Polaris I have owned had some annoying noises to it.
 

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I've always said I wouldn't own a sled without reverse. Well now I have one.(2015) Huge pain in the butt. Kid always parks it so I have to drag it around. Drag it around in the shop so its pointed to the door for next run. Drag it around in parking lots because someone always parks in front of it. Drag it out of the trailer. Haven't had to drag it out of snow bank yet. I told him if he starts getting stuck , to pin it and aim for crap he thinks he can run over. Probably add reverse next season just for me moving it around the shop and out in the driveway/trailer. Well worth it in my opinion.
 

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Reverse has came along way in reliability and durability since 1992. A lot of guys had issues with the chain cases on early models with reverse. I probably would not spend the money on adding it to a 1992 phaser, but would for sure look for it in a newer sled.


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