The other turbos in my group are a thundercat and a XF 9000. They are the new turbos that you seek. Doesn't matter, I spank them all. You can buy a stock 2021 and be happy. But if you tune it, you will be happy and shit your pants at the same time.I should have been more specific. Gone to the newer 998 Turbo.
This is very true. Just be aware of how aggressive you set up the front end. Don't over carbide or go super aggressive with ski choice if easier steering is a concern. There is a significant increase in weight over the front vs. a 2 stroke, so choices are crucial. I'm no longer an aggressive rider, so the stock CAT skis with 6" SlimJims gives me easy steering with very good control. JMO. DaveThe only two stroke I ever miss is my old Thundercat. I miss it until I pull the trigger on my Turbo. Then I forget about missing the Tcat. Unless you are ditch banging or riding in a snowcross event, the weight difference is not an issue unless you weigh 120 lbs and have strength issues. Then a lighter sled makes sense. Of course if someone has strength issues, they can always start lifting in the off season.
I respect your opinion, but you think a stock 998 is slow?Stock turbos are just to slow. JMO
I stand corrected, I misspoke. Stock 1100 turbos are slow. What do I mean by that? I raced a buddies stock 2009 Z1 Turbo and he didn't beat my F8HO by that much. I would not consider wrestling a big clumsy beast like that to be 5-8mph better than an 800. I never rode a mile on my 998 stock so I don't know what it would be capable of. I never rode a mile on my 2012 or my 2015 stock either. But I do know how fast 998's and 1100's are with a program and a good exhaust and they are amazing! I don't want to be 5-10 mph better than an 800. I want to be 25mph ahead. I have no interest in a stock turbo, they are too slow. whoops I said it again. They are very reliable at the 280 hp level as well. I have not had an engine issue in four sleds over 10 years.I respect your opinion, but you think a stock 998 is slow?
The 998's trounce the 850's and even 900 Turbo... they are in a league of their own, and have the fastest top speed of any stock sled EVER made, with faster acceleration then ANY SLED EVER made, and you think they are slow?
Sounds like a bullcrap made up excuse to mod one's machine.
I would argue the exact opposite, the 998 is more then enough in stock form,,,, thats why many people aren't touching them, and they stay very reliable like that.
All the sleds you listed above disappear so quickly in my rear view mirror, its like magic! I had all of those at one time and still have an old ZRT1100 as well as an 1100 turbo. I know what they are capable of. Compared to a boosted 1100 or 998, sorry they are slow.I don't disagree that with modding a turbo, it gets much faster quickly.
I just find it hard to believe someone would use the word 'slow' to describe the fastest stock sled ever made.
Faster then a late 90's Thundercat.
Faster then a 03 F7.
Faster then a Z1 Turbo.
Faster then a F1100 Turbo.....
but its slow!