oh yeah, a warm winter will do it. i don't want warm winters but that's when i got the best spring deals. i got porked this time , but i knew what to expect given the times. even if the people are out there , i can hide pretty goodThe one thing you missed to mention is all it will take is one bad winter of not being able to ride that 12k + new sled and they will bail. Bet you see a lot on marketplace looking to trade for a boat or wheeler.