[swankzr]

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: See the whole article with the link below:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7722058/

New England sees new look to logging
Working forests give way to clearcutting, and then homes

Loggers from T.R. Dillon Logging Inc. load trees from a clearcutting operation on the company's land in Success, N.H. Dillon has recently purchased thousands of acres of land in Northern New England, clearcutting large portions that has raised concerns.

By Katharine Webster

Updated: 9:30 a.m. ET May 10, 2005
BERLIN, N.H. - Logging trucks often outnumber cars on the roads between the Canadian border and this city built around paper, pulp and lumber mills.

But some North Country residents worry the trucks will be gone in a generation, along with the working forest and the mills, because of indiscriminate logging and creeping development.

Others worry about destruction of wildlife habitat and the loss of public access to private timberlands for hunting, fishing, hiking, snowmobiling and blueberry picking.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7722058/

 

[dualmass]

It's no different than whats happening everywhere else.
I don't like it but what can be done. For example: my neighbor just sold his house and the new owner just cut down all the 60 year old oak trees! :banghead:
How about the Great Northwoods?
Pittsburg has been cut to pieces by private home owners, if it's good for them why can't Dillion do it? :dunno:
Did a forest suffer when we built our homes/ camps? You betcha.
Live free or die...

We need snow :fluffy: :fluffy: :fluffy: :fluffy: :fluffy:

 

[jasonsf7]

Tough situation....... i hate the fact it is all getting cleared. However i am one of those guys. I reside in CT but absolutely 100 percenty love pittsburg. I am currently in the market for a piece of land up there. I will only cut what i need to to build my house. after that ill preserve as much as i can. i cant really say anything.

Jay

 

[skid Jackson]

Trees grow back.
That whole area was clear cut during the turn of the century. Go back to a clear cut in 5 years and you won't be able to walk through the tangle of new growth. Go back in 20 yrs and the average person wouldn't know it had been cut. I'd be more worried about people cutting up the large lots into "kingdom" lots than loggers cutting the trees.

If enough people decide to preserve it than there won't be any local timber industry. Who cares you may think the tourists will come. Yes they will and they will bring all thier pollution, sprawl etc etc with them. Far more harm is done to the environment by all those people running up and down rte 93 every weekend of the year than mr. Dillion could ever hope to do. Of course if mr dillion is any kind of bussiness man he will probably cut the land up and sell it off as Kingdom lots after he gets done with the trees!! Oh well!!

 

[oldtimer]

Loggers are just as concerned with the regrowth of trees as anyone.
A clear cut has more wildlife per acre than a mature forest would have in 20 acres. The food and cover is right there at ground level. Then, predators come to seek the prey that eats the new growth...
People tend to see what is missing rather than what's left standing...though I have not seen what Dillon does....I do know most of the woods up in Errol and Success is crappy low grade wood. The best thing for a long term forest is clear cuts to get the new straighter smoother wood to come in. So, go hunt some pheasant in the 3 year old clearcuts.

A bigger concern I think is what Plum Creek is doing up around Moosehead...1,000 new hi-dollar homes...2 gas station/stores, marina, 1,000's of campsites...internal road network...1/2 of Moosehead is getting developed....Basicly Moosehead is gonna be just another rich mans play town..

 

[dualmass]

The Moosehead development plan makes me feel sick.
Your right, another place for the wealth to play, before you know it there won't any open space left. Plum Creek is changing the face of the great north woods.
Gone are the days of "camps", here come "estates" and "compounds".
And rich people don not like snowmobiles...

 

[airtime006]

Overall the rich don't care for sleds, but many are the ones who can afford this expensive sport. Sorry, according to my W2, I am one of them and for the record, am AGAINST that Plum Development as well as any others similiar in any wilderness areas such as in Maine, NH, or VT. Skid is right on with clear cut re-generation which many don't realize or care to acknowlege.

 

[OldViperRider]

Originally posted by skid Jackson@Sep 30 2005, 06:27 PM
Trees grow back.
That whole area was clear cut during the turn of the century. Go back to a clear cut in 5 years and you won't be able to walk through the tangle of new growth. Go back in 20 yrs and the average person wouldn't know it had been cut. I'd be more worried about people cutting up the large lots into "kingdom" lots than loggers cutting the trees.
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You are absolutely right! :div20:

Back in the early 70s there was a bad infestation of spruce bud worms here in PIttsburg, NH. There were many, many clear cuts done in the following years to get the timber before it rotted.

Now those clear cuts are being harvested again. :div20: It is a continueous thirty to fourty year cycle as long as the land is managed by a logging company with a long term view. :div20:

Hopefully the states and local towns will do whatever they can to keep the large tracts of forest land in the northeast in the hands of companies with the long range view. In my view this is the best way to preserve public access to the forest lands. :div20:

A well managed forest is a wounderful thing for all life, including humans! :banana:

Mark :beerchug:

 

[sheomet]

Originally posted by Airtime006@Oct 3 2005, 10:05 AM
Overall the rich don't care for sleds, but many are the ones who can afford this expensive sport.  Sorry, according to my W2, I am one of them and for the record, am AGAINST that Plum Development as well as any others similiar in any wilderness areas such as in Maine, NH, or VT.  Skid is right on with clear cut re-generation which many don't realize or care to acknowlege.
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Welcome to HCS! Where are you from? :beerchug:

 

[skid Jackson]

After mt st helens leveled a zillion acres .... the tracts that came back first and the strongest were tracts that had been previously clear cut. You won't see that fact in too many places but it's true. Plum creek is leaving 95% of the land undeveloped and protected from future development. It could be much worse. All in all it's probably not such a bad deal.

 

[airtime006]

Katahdin: Live Free or Die is the motto and trying to keep it that way. I have 2 houses in NH and ride all over NE, depending on where the good snow is and what my weekend committments are. Keep the rubber side down !!!!!