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2004 Cats Seen !!!
Bleed-green on 2/23/2003 1:34:56 PM

They did it , there is a Hellcat which is in the firecat style chassis with a hybusa engine .

Zr 900 does have direct drive.

F5,F6,F7 are available in efi or carb.
Mountain Cats come in 500, 600, 700 in firecat style chassis.
1M 900 still in Zr 3 chassis also direct drive
New spring only MC 900HO
- twin pipes from factory
-13.5 to 1 heads ( only good for high altitude only
-revised porting
-lots of lightweight parts
159 by 2 track
Est. 165-170hp
weight of 480pounds!!!

Spring Order F Cats
Sno Pro 5,6,and 7''s
Rear suspension now available with cross link!!!
Reservoir shocks up front.
Assortment of colors and decal packages again

Got this off of AMSNOW snow user posted
Is it true ? dont really know But with all the Problems Ive had with my ZR-800 I REALLY DONT CARE!!
At this Point..

MR_ZR maybe soon to be Mr_REV or MR_PROX2 But never MR_RX1

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I never had a problem UNTIL they did my pistons .(UPGRADE /CRAP)

now the Freakin thing wont IDle.. No power till 6000 rpm.

so much unburnt Gas in teh exhaust that its litterly starting on fire.

been back to cat ( 5 times) still the same.
every freakin time it costs me $80.00 an hr they ussually do about 3 hrs of (diagnostics / replace this /that) I pay for all parts ...Figure it out $80.00 X 3 X 5 =$1200.00 so far .

so yea Im getting a little sick and tired of my ZR-800.

its a sad thing I have been brand loyal for a really LONG LONG time

but I ride my wife more than my machine !!! for you married guys .. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN!!


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Good info off of rec.sports.snowmobiles...

Arctic Cat has been listening to consumer comments. While most Cat
buyers have indicated that EFI is the way to go, there has been a very vocal
minority who still prefer carburetors. This season, there will be a carbed
and fuel injected version of all the two stroke engine packages except the
500 class. There is also demand for a higher-performing four stroke. That's
available now, too. Finally, the Renegade and SKS market segment has seen a
major resurgence. Cat's in that segment as well.

High Performance
The Firecat line will see a 500, 600 and 700cc engine option. Cat
released the F6 in mid-January. Both 600 and 700 engines will be available
in EFI or carb versions.

All Firecats will have three color options during the regular season.
You can have your F in green, red or black again this year.

The final option that consumers have to choose is suspension. The
standard package returns with the addition of coupling blocks on the rear of
the rails. This should help the sled's corner handling and keep the nose
down a bit off the line.

The Sno Pro suspension package will be a spring only option again this

But the bigger news is the introduction of the EXT setup. The 600 and
700 class Firecats will have the option of getting a 144x1.25-inch track
this year. As a direct answer to the SKS/Renegade hybrid market, Cat will
offer this EXT as a full model during the regular season. The EXT will use
ACT gas shocks at all four points. Up front, the skis will be set at the
standard 43 inches, from carbide to carbide. The tunnel extension will have
a small cargo rack for carrying gas or a small bag.

All Firecats will have traction grippers on the runningboards this
year as a standard feature.

The ZR family has also had some big changes. There isn't an 800
anymore. That has been replaced by a 900 EFI or carb option. Under the hood
on the ZR, consumers will find the first installation of the new Diamond
Direct Drive system. The system uses a new primary and secondary clutch
combo with a planetary gear system that runs directly to the drive axle. The
brake remains inside the belly pan on the right hand side, attached to the
drive shaft. However, it has been completely redesigned to perform under the
new strain of spinning at half the speed is used to. "The brake on the
Diamond Drive was the hardest thing to get worked out," explained Cat's
Product Manager Joel Hallstrom. "With it spinning so much slower than the
conventional brake disc, we had to find a combination of materials that
would provide the right amount of friction while still staying cool enough
during heavy operation." The answer to that problem was to go to an
automotive-style cast iron rotor and dual caliper.

Engineering reps said that the Diamond Drive did not necessarily
improve on horsepower delivery as much as it was a weight savings. The new
system shaves 11 pounds off the conventional jackshaft and chaincase

The ZR 900 will be available in black with red or green for the
regular season.

Trail Performance
More big news from Cat is the introduction of the Sabercat line. The
new family will replace the ZL sleds and migrate to the F chassis. The
Sabercat will be available in 500, 600, 600 EFI and 700 EFI power packages.
There will be an EXT long track version of the 600 and 700 EFI setups as

The 500 engine in the Sabercat is new this year. It does not have the
Arctic Power Valves on the cylinders. Hallstrom explained that this is the
replacement for the 550 liquid engine to be used in the F chassis.

Cat will offer an LX package for both the EFI models and the 500, too.
The LX will feature Cat's remote starter- EFI only, mechanical reverse and

The suspension package for all Sabercats will have the coupling blocks
on the rail, like the Firecats. It will also have a new ACT position
sensitive shock on the rear torque arm and RydeFX shocks on the other three

The seat on the Sabercat will be slightly different from the Firecat.
Expect it to be a little softer in material with a wider base and smaller
wedge pad in the crotch area. Off the back of the seat is a new removable
hard trunk piece. Once that is pulled off, the seat will release via a pair
of pins, revealing the belt and sparkplug storage area.

The Sabercats will be available in red or green.

Another of Cat's big stories is the T660 Turbo. The 660 four stroke
motor uses a turbo with 21 pounds of boost to hit a reported 110 horsepower.
Cat feels so good about its turbo sled that it got moved from the solo
touring segment to the trail performance family. See the test report for
more information.

Cat has big news in the mountain class with the reintroduction of the
King Cat 900. The new mountain master spins a 15x162x2.25-inch track. By Cat
's information the new track is lighter than last year's 159-inch rugs. The
King Cat will use titanium springs on all four points, as well as in the
primary and secondary clutches. Cat lists the total weight of the King at
500 factory pounds.

The King Cat will be available in limited quantities this year. It
will come in either orange and chrome or green and chrome color schemes.

There aren't a lot of other changes in the 1M lineup. There will be 800
EFI, 900 and 900 EFI engine options with a 159-inch track. The 600 EFI will
come with a 144-inch rug and the 570 fan-cooled 1M will feature a

The mountain sleds have gone on another general diet and have lost six
more factory pounds for 2004. Also, the rear suspension will have an
eight-inch rear idler for improved track spinning efficiency.

All liquid-cooled 1Ms will be available in either red or green.

The Pantera and Panther families have been slightly tweaked, but
return in more or less the same setup as last year. There will be new set
material on all the touring sleds. Additionally, the passenger footrests are
larger and will better support the runningboards.

The rear suspension will still have the fiberglass overload springs,
but the torsion springs will use the square wire like the Firecats. The
skids will also be coupled this year.

The 600 EFI and 800 EFI models will use the remote electric start. The
rest will have the standard key operated version. Also, all will have
mechanical reverse and side mirrors.

The T660 Touring will come in the turbo and naturally aspirated
packages. Like the short tracked version, the tandem sled will have a new
hood design to accommodate the needs of the turbo system. It will also have
a new digital and analog gauge pod. The T660s all come in platinum.

Spring Specials
Like last year, Arctic Cat has four custom graphic options for the
spring buyer. "We like to let the design team have some fun with the spring
packages," said Cat's Sales and Marketing VP, Robert Bonev.

This year consumers can pick from the Team Arctic, Tiger, Fighter
Pilot and Nightfire scemes on their Firecats. There will also be a Sno Pro
suspension package upgrade available for the Firecats and ZR.

Final Analysis
Cat has done a lot over the offseason to distribute its strengths to
more product groups. There will be EFI and carb options in almost all
platforms. In addition, Cat has brought the first turbo-charged sled to
production with the T660. Finally, the Diamond Direct drive system has been
eagerly anticipated for the past two years. If it works well in the ZR, we
anticipate seeing it in almost every Cat within two years.

While there were more than a handful of bugs in the F chassis' debut
season, engineering officials are confident that they have been resolved for
2004. They are so confident, they shifted an entire model family to the
chassis this year.
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