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You can't be serious..... we're constantly bombarded by the media of the death count.... how could we possibly forget? Speaking of death count.... are you trying to tell us that you remember or think about every soul that is lost EVERY DAY to heart disease and cancer, the two leading causes of death in the U.S.? Or any of the myriad of other causes, like diabetes, accidents, obesity, substance abuse, or suicide (I won't even get into abortion). Do you pine for all of them, too? The fact is, death is unpleasant. It sucks. We don't like to think about it, we don't want to face it, but it's a fact of life. No matter how smart we think we are, we can't stop it. People die EVERY DAY of something, all too often something horrible. I've experienced it with family and friends, and I've seen it in my line of work. You can live in fear of it (which isn't really living), or you can make the most of your time here. I know which one I choose.
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I posted this for another Socialist-Communist here a few days back but it seems to apply here for a few.

If you like higher fuel prices, higher taxes, killing the unborn, corruption, censorship, gun confiscation, wide open boarders, riots, lockdowns, defunding police, limited travel, overpriced governed health care that is shitty, closed schools, fear mongering, race baiting, wearing useless masks, cheating, ratting on your neighbor & political correctness your in the right place lately.
If that's the case, no worries a new stimulus check that's worth shit may be in your future.
Just keep sitting that fat ass on the couch until the inept corrupt US mail service can get it to the project you'll be living in. If you are not down with all this shit then you may have fucked up back on Nov 3rd with a clear choice you did have.


This election WAS rigged (shame on MI among other States) & if you need to lie about it to others around you that's expected, that's apparently what your made of. But, you cannot lie to yourselves. If you have kids or grand kids look them in the eye & explain all the shit YOU voted for.

Joe & Camel haven't won anything as of this date except from cnn, nbc etc.
Trump needs to continue to fight for all of us & I'm grateful for that.

God Bless the USA & MI!!
 

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I posted this for another Socialist-Communist here a few days back but it seems to apply here for a few.

If you like higher fuel prices, higher taxes, killing the unborn, corruption, censorship, gun confiscation, wide open boarders, riots, lockdowns, defunding police, limited travel, overpriced governed health care that is shitty, closed schools, fear mongering, race baiting, wearing useless masks, cheating, ratting on your neighbor & political correctness your in the right place lately.
If that's the case, no worries a new stimulus check that's worth shit may be in your future.
Just keep sitting that fat ass on the couch until the inept corrupt US mail service can get it to the project you'll be living in. If you are not down with all this shit then you may have fucked up back on Nov 3rd with a clear choice you did have.


This election WAS rigged (shame on MI among other States) & if you need to lie about it to others around you that's expected, that's apparently what your made of. But, you cannot lie to yourselves. If you have kids or grand kids look them in the eye & explain all the shit YOU voted for.

Joe & Camel haven't won anything as of this date except from cnn, nbc etc.
Trump needs to continue to fight for all of us & I'm grateful for that.

God Bless the USA & MI!!
What I find so concerning is the right and left both think being to the extreme is the only solution.
I am disappointed with both parties. I was astonished that the right handed out money this last year the way they did. They were basically buying votes. I mean for real, giving people more money than they make when employed? Then the record amount of money he is handing out to farmers?
Where is the voter fraud? Didn't the GOP in Michigan just make a statement that they have seen no evidence of voter fraud? Then you have the 2 canvassers in Wayne county who are now backpeddling saying intense bullying and coercion plus bad legal advice forced them to agree to certify the election after they had voted no. I mean come on, it doesn't instill much confidence that these 2 can be swayed in either direction. I lean to the right in my political beliefs, but this shit show that is happening now is very disappointing. Doing some research as well, shows that the stock market really hasn't done better under Trump than Obama, I know the 30K number seems big, but if you look at percent growth Obama has him beat, compare both 4 year terms of Obama and his % growth is higher. (Stock Market Performance by President). I do like some of the things that Trump has done, I honestly believed he should have been a one and done president. Come in shake some stuff up and then move on. I think Pence would have been a much better candidate, and if the republicans would have picked him, I feel they would have won the election.
 

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What I find so concerning is the right and left both think being to the extreme is the only solution.
I am disappointed with both parties. I was astonished that the right handed out money this last year the way they did. They were basically buying votes. I mean for real, giving people more money than they make when employed? Then the record amount of money he is handing out to farmers?
Where is the voter fraud? Didn't the GOP in Michigan just make a statement that they have seen no evidence of voter fraud? Then you have the 2 canvassers in Wayne county who are now backpeddling saying intense bullying and coercion plus bad legal advice forced them to agree to certify the election after they had voted no. I mean come on, it doesn't instill much confidence that these 2 can be swayed in either direction. I lean to the right in my political beliefs, but this shit show that is happening now is very disappointing. Doing some research as well, shows that the stock market really hasn't done better under Trump than Obama, I know the 30K number seems big, but if you look at percent growth Obama has him beat, compare both 4 year terms of Obama and his % growth is higher. (Stock Market Performance by President). I do like some of the things that Trump has done, I honestly believed he should have been a one and done president. Come in shake some stuff up and then move on. I think Pence would have been a much better candidate, and if the republicans would have picked him, I feel they would have won the election.
There was a lot of stuff that happen in down town Detroit on election night that we should not accept as the new normal. As for the 2 canvassers they were asking simple questions, why don't the books match? The were called out as being racist, they received death threats, the other side said nothing out of the normal happen election night between 10pm and morning so I guess blocking windows with card board and totes of ballots showing up throughout the night may just be the new normal.

As for the stock market Obama too over a market that was rock bottom the lowest its been in over a decade, Trump took over an 8 year recovery and continue to push it higher about the same pace during Obama's first term
 

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I posted this for another Socialist-Communist here a few days back but it seems to apply here for a few.

If you like higher fuel prices, higher taxes, killing the unborn, corruption, censorship, gun confiscation, wide open boarders, riots, lockdowns, defunding police, limited travel, overpriced governed health care that is shitty, closed schools, fear mongering, race baiting, wearing useless masks, cheating, ratting on your neighbor & political correctness your in the right place lately.
If that's the case, no worries a new stimulus check that's worth shit may be in your future.
Just keep sitting that fat ass on the couch until the inept corrupt US mail service can get it to the project you'll be living in. If you are not down with all this shit then you may have fucked up back on Nov 3rd with a clear choice you did have.


This election WAS rigged (shame on MI among other States) & if you need to lie about it to others around you that's expected, that's apparently what your made of. But, you cannot lie to yourselves. If you have kids or grand kids look them in the eye & explain all the shit YOU voted for.

Joe & Camel haven't won anything as of this date except from cnn, nbc etc.
Trump needs to continue to fight for all of us & I'm grateful for that.

God Bless the USA & MI!!
kick ass post, dude. (y)

spot on.
 

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There was a lot of stuff that happen in down town Detroit on election night that we should not accept as the new normal. As for the 2 canvassers they were asking simple questions, why don't the books match? The were called out as being racist, they received death threats, the other side said nothing out of the normal happen election night between 10pm and morning so I guess blocking windows with card board and totes of ballots showing up throughout the night may just be the new normal.

As for the stock market Obama too over a market that was rock bottom the lowest its been in over a decade, Trump took over an 8 year recovery and continue to push it higher about the same pace during Obama's first term
Agreed, but the GOP themselves have said no evidence to show not valid election. Also both parties had their observers inside.

I do understand that Obama took over a rock bottom but if you look at the growth even the last 4 years of his terms it out performed Trumps. I am not an Obama fan, however it doesn't look like Trump has done much better. He talks alot, likes to manipulate data(like every other politician) Look at the market for Trump. December 2017: 26,103 December 2019: 28,909, Basically 5% growth. Not a stellar performance...
 

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Agreed, but the GOP themselves have said no evidence to show not valid election. Also both parties had their observers inside.

I do understand that Obama took over a rock bottom but if you look at the growth even the last 4 years of his terms it out performed Trumps. I am not an Obama fan, however it doesn't look like Trump has done much better. He talks alot, likes to manipulate data(like every other politician) Look at the market for Trump. December 2017: 26,103 December 2019: 28,909, Basically 5% growth. Not a stellar performance...
Don't know what to believe but one complaint was as the night went on when a rep observer left the room there spots were being filled with dem observers, then were told the place was at capacity because of covid and that is when the windows were being boarded up. It is what it is, I just hope future election don't continue this way, if they continue with early voting maybe count the votes as they arrive and post results and % of the precinct that has voted.

Percentage increase for Trump hasn't done better than Obama's 1st term a little better than the 2nd term... Obama's 1st term increase of 43% / 10% per year from a market that was beat down, Obama's 2nd year 30% / 7.5% per year Trumps 1st term so far 32% / 8% per year including the shutdown. It's easy to cherry pick a time frame you picked Dec '17 to Dec '19 5% growth, if you would have picked Dec '13 to Dec '15 1.7% growth.
 

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Don't know what to believe but one complaint was as the night went on when a rep observer left the room there spots were being filled with dem observers, then were told the place was at capacity because of covid and that is when the windows were being boarded up. It is what it is, I just hope future election don't continue this way, if they continue with early voting maybe count the votes as they arrive and post results and % of the precinct that has voted.

Percentage increase for Trump hasn't done better than Obama's 1st term a little better than the 2nd term... Obama's 1st term increase of 43% / 10% per year from a market that was beat down, Obama's 2nd year 30% / 7.5% per year Trumps 1st term so far 32% / 8% per year including the shutdown. It's easy to cherry pick a time frame you picked Dec '17 to Dec '19 5% growth, if you would have picked Dec '13 to Dec '15 1.7% growth.
Good point I picked the 2 years I picked, as I think the performance of the first year of presidency, isn't really reflective of the incoming president. I didn't take the 4th year of Trumps presidency as I don't think Trump should be blamed for the financials of 2020. So if we want to discount the first year of Obama's presidency it would be 118%/7 which comes out to 16.85%. Sadly I think we all expected great things from Trump, and when I look back, not been overly impressed.
 

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What I find so concerning is the right and left both think being to the extreme is the only solution.
I am disappointed with both parties. I was astonished that the right handed out money this last year the way they did. They were basically buying votes. I mean for real, giving people more money than they make when employed? Then the record amount of money he is handing out to farmers?
Where is the voter fraud? Didn't the GOP in Michigan just make a statement that they have seen no evidence of voter fraud? Then you have the 2 canvassers in Wayne county who are now backpeddling saying intense bullying and coercion plus bad legal advice forced them to agree to certify the election after they had voted no. I mean come on, it doesn't instill much confidence that these 2 can be swayed in either direction. I lean to the right in my political beliefs, but this shit show that is happening now is very disappointing. Doing some research as well, shows that the stock market really hasn't done better under Trump than Obama, I know the 30K number seems big, but if you look at percent growth Obama has him beat, compare both 4 year terms of Obama and his % growth is higher. (Stock Market Performance by President). I do like some of the things that Trump has done, I honestly believed he should have been a one and done president. Come in shake some stuff up and then move on. I think Pence would have been a much better candidate, and if the republicans would have picked him, I feel they would have won the election.
I wish I could print my 401 k growth percentage but I started a new job in 2014(obama) first 2 yrs ave 3 and 4% growth 3rd yr 2017(trump first ) 5% Last 3 til Covid almost 9% so don’t tell me the stock market hasn’t grown and I haven’t changed any of my elections
 

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I wish I could print my 401 k growth percentage but I started a new job in 2014(obama) first 2 yrs ave 3 and 4% growth 3rd yr 2017(trump first ) 5% Last 3 til Covid almost 9% so don’t tell me the stock market hasn’t grown and I haven’t changed any of my elections

Just check out the chart and look at the growth. Not sure about your selections, but I took a new job in 2007. I did not roll my 401K over, so it was just an account that grew. It increased by 75% from 2007 to 2017, these could be because of my investments and I did move them some. Just go back to the chart.
 

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My wife went to Meijer yesterday to THANKSGIVING shop.
She said that a sign posted said "one turkey per household"........she bought 2 of course :)

Who in the hell is going to enforce too many people eating THANKSGIVING dinner together???

Fuck whitmer.
 

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My wife went to Meijer yesterday to THANKSGIVING shop.
She said that a sign posted said "one turkey per household"........she bought 2 of course :)

Who in the hell is going to enforce too many people eating THANKSGIVING dinner together???

Fuck whitmer.
Did it ever occur to you that maybe the limits on things at the grocery stores are being put back up AGAIN so people don't start hoarding all kinds of shit? I've literally seen people rolling out of Sam's club with two carts full of f'n tp, bottled water, etc again. This is ridiculous. The only reason there was any shortages of shit last time was because people filled their house with all this shit. It's beyond stupid.
 

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Oh stop it.
And there have been limits on turkeys for ages. This year, it’s going to be tighter because people can’t control themselves. I’m just pointing out what I think is pretty obvious and what I’ve been seeing, that’s all.

I don’t think two turkeys for a family is crazy (we usually do two as well because we are feeding two complete families) and I’m not calling you specifically a hoarder.

However, it’s a fact that they are out in full f’n force again and it pisses me off. Especially because this time around, people should REALLY know better.

Now, if you would have told me that the limit was one and you grabbed four, just because, I would have for SURE called you a hoarder. 😄
 

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And there have been limits on turkeys for ages. This year, it’s going to be tighter because people can’t control themselves. I’m just pointing out what I think is pretty obvious and what I’ve been seeing, that’s all.

I don’t think two turkeys for a family is crazy (we usually do two as well because we are feeding two complete families) and I’m not calling you specifically a hoarder.

However, it’s a fact that they are out in full f’n force again and it pisses me off. Especially because this time around, people should REALLY know better.

Now, if you would have told me that the limit was one and you grabbed four, just because, I would have for SURE called you a hoarder. 😄
We ALWAYS get 2 turkeys too, that was my point but you wouldn't have known that. We have a Turkey cook off every year. The wife makes one in the oven & I deep fry one, then after we all eat my Jack Russell does a taste test of both & decides the winner by which ever piece he devours first :)
I'm NOT changing any traditions, amount of people here or habits for that Governor.

I totally agree on the hoarding thing though, I had a bitch of a time finding some Tonic water yesterday. Me & my huge problems.
We carry on!!
 

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We changed to prime rib about 10yrs ago. Best change ever. :)
 
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