Is that Justin Winter that won the Pro 500 Class? I raced against him last year in the Northwoods circuit and he is a handful. Last year he had his 2002 440 Snopro dialed in for ice lemans style racing which is what we normally end up with when racing on the lakes. I had used my 2001 Zr 440 cross country snopro set up for ice racing and the f-series or last years snopro set up for ice handles equally as well. I did not get mine dialed in quite as well as my 2001 ZR snopro, so I did not race it. But you are correct they can be made to handle very good and flat in the corners if set-up properly.