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I am requesting all the Guru knowledge to help me with this issue.
As F5SNOPRO posted in his Real Deal Thread, we rode all day yesterday and a lot of that day was at Back Lake.
His F5 scared the Sh*t out of some people for the exact reason I got my ass handed to me 95% of the time yesterday...Hole Shots and Traction.
My Info:
102 1.075 Woodys SS Studs with aluminum backers in a 2, 2 out, 2 more out pattern. See Pic. I have everything dead stock...Coupling blocks are set at stock setting and God only knows where my Dealer has my suspension set. (Forgive my ignorance, but I never had this problem with my ZR 800...I just rode it and didn't need to know all this stuff). About 8 runs into my blood Bath Dana and I with the help of this other kid on an F7 that was ripping right along, took out two Clutch Shims...I switched from Ethanol to Regular...nothing else was touched.
My Nightmare:
Yesterday on Back lake with roughly 6 inches of snow on top of the ice...some spots had less snow...I raced back and forth about 10 times for a total of 20 runs or so...I raced everything on the planet...RX1s, SRXs, Thundercat 900s, 1000's,F7s, ZR 900s, ZR 800s, ZR 800 CCss, MXZ 800s, Rev 800s, MACH Zs, XC 800s, XCR 800s, XC 700s etc...everything there I raced.
Sadly, everything there kicked the Sh*t out of me. All because everytime I hammerd the throttle I sat there and burried a whole in the ice...I tried standing on the back of the sled...sitting on the trunk...removing the two clutch shims...sitting forward...jumping up and down to get the studs to seat themselves...nothing worked...The ZR 900s were killing everything...The REV 800 and RX 1 were close behind...and I would stay even with/catch up to a litttle on all the other sleds, but nothing impressive...believe me, my ego was beat to hell yesterday. The other sleds were litterally launching forward like they were on sling shots and I would just sit and spin :angry :angry: :angry:
Can some one please help???
BIG NOTE:
A lot of these sleds (I asked and interviewed as many people as I could) were not stock...above, when I mentioned the sleds that were kicking my ass, I was mentioning what was stock...at least to the best of my knowledge...the Rev supposedly had a different track with razor picks on it or something like that....but there were MACH Zs and Thunder Cats there that were being raced by actual ICE DRAGS people...those things were pulling some serious wheelies and ripping down the ice well above anyone. I don't think there were more than three stock SkiDoos there....and man, the other 97 non stockers were killing me....
Focusing in on what was my worst enemy is traction/launch. This is where I am pleading for help. I would love to tell you guys the F7 rocked, but it got it's ass beat bad. The other Team Green F7 that F5SNOPRO and I were talking to was doing the best for F7s and even he was not anywhere near the ZR 900s and that Rev 800.
Also, I lost 6 studs to bending...meaning, I replaced them after seeing they were bent beyond functioning. Is this normal for stainless steel studs so early in the season?
Thanks to any and all who can help. Just point me in the right suspension setup/track direction.
As F5SNOPRO posted in his Real Deal Thread, we rode all day yesterday and a lot of that day was at Back Lake.
His F5 scared the Sh*t out of some people for the exact reason I got my ass handed to me 95% of the time yesterday...Hole Shots and Traction.
My Info:
102 1.075 Woodys SS Studs with aluminum backers in a 2, 2 out, 2 more out pattern. See Pic. I have everything dead stock...Coupling blocks are set at stock setting and God only knows where my Dealer has my suspension set. (Forgive my ignorance, but I never had this problem with my ZR 800...I just rode it and didn't need to know all this stuff). About 8 runs into my blood Bath Dana and I with the help of this other kid on an F7 that was ripping right along, took out two Clutch Shims...I switched from Ethanol to Regular...nothing else was touched.
My Nightmare:
Yesterday on Back lake with roughly 6 inches of snow on top of the ice...some spots had less snow...I raced back and forth about 10 times for a total of 20 runs or so...I raced everything on the planet...RX1s, SRXs, Thundercat 900s, 1000's,F7s, ZR 900s, ZR 800s, ZR 800 CCss, MXZ 800s, Rev 800s, MACH Zs, XC 800s, XCR 800s, XC 700s etc...everything there I raced.
Sadly, everything there kicked the Sh*t out of me. All because everytime I hammerd the throttle I sat there and burried a whole in the ice...I tried standing on the back of the sled...sitting on the trunk...removing the two clutch shims...sitting forward...jumping up and down to get the studs to seat themselves...nothing worked...The ZR 900s were killing everything...The REV 800 and RX 1 were close behind...and I would stay even with/catch up to a litttle on all the other sleds, but nothing impressive...believe me, my ego was beat to hell yesterday. The other sleds were litterally launching forward like they were on sling shots and I would just sit and spin :angry :angry: :angry:
Can some one please help???
BIG NOTE:
A lot of these sleds (I asked and interviewed as many people as I could) were not stock...above, when I mentioned the sleds that were kicking my ass, I was mentioning what was stock...at least to the best of my knowledge...the Rev supposedly had a different track with razor picks on it or something like that....but there were MACH Zs and Thunder Cats there that were being raced by actual ICE DRAGS people...those things were pulling some serious wheelies and ripping down the ice well above anyone. I don't think there were more than three stock SkiDoos there....and man, the other 97 non stockers were killing me....
Focusing in on what was my worst enemy is traction/launch. This is where I am pleading for help. I would love to tell you guys the F7 rocked, but it got it's ass beat bad. The other Team Green F7 that F5SNOPRO and I were talking to was doing the best for F7s and even he was not anywhere near the ZR 900s and that Rev 800.
Also, I lost 6 studs to bending...meaning, I replaced them after seeing they were bent beyond functioning. Is this normal for stainless steel studs so early in the season?
Thanks to any and all who can help. Just point me in the right suspension setup/track direction.