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I will say this, I have hardcore Democrat and hardcore republican friends on Facebook and what I see every single day is the republican friends posting hate shit towards democrats. Some of it it is tru but most of it is pure bs. I see almost no hate shut from the dems. To me it seems a lot of republicans are very afraid for no good reason.
 

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I’m afraid the the dems will squander our freedoms and destroy what America is/was. I truly despise many things they stand for and if you despise the actions and beliefs you can’t help but despise the people themselves. I’ll say it out loud I don’t care I hate them do I wish them harm ? Not really. Do I want them to go away ? YES. there is no coming to terms with them. How do you come to terms with a group that kills babies hanging out of the wounb and want to jail people for offending people? Open boarders ,free shit for all on our backs , social engineering , reparations , preferential hiring the list goes on and on and on. Socialists party hijacking ,antifa. Etc. I dont see republicans going out attacking dems I don’t see republicans smashing cars and stopping mom and pop from driving down the road. Honestly how do you come to terms with insane people? And I believe the hate talk really amped up with the deplorable statement. They made it clear the distane they have so at that point. All bets are off imo. I’m not even a republican I consider myself an independent with a constitutional tilt. I didn’t turn on dems. They turned on me /us.
 

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I will say this, I have hardcore Democrat and hardcore republican friends on Facebook and what I see every single day is the republican friends posting hate shit towards democrats. Some of it it is tru but most of it is pure bs. I see almost no hate shut from the dems. To me it seems a lot of republicans are very afraid for no good reason.
I agree with this partially. I'm also seeing a lot of Anti-Trump posts from the Dem side of my friend group. What I want to scream to both sides is, "Does it really fucking matter right now!?" Stay safe, be smart and if you get this nasty virus, may your recovery be full. The political back and forth that this country has become is disturbing.
 

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Lid2 you are a smart man. If you were standing in front of me I'd still say it.

My "liberal" views relate to things like, for example the Civil Rights Act.

And a few other similar "left leaning" ideology. But that's where it stops for me.

The Republican party isn't the party of "fiscal responsibility". And the Democratic party isn't "the party of the people".

Those are from a time, long ago. Those ideologies (and the good things they provided) are gone, kaput.

What we see in media aren't representing most people. Just a loud select few.

I loathe ALL Democrats. I loathe ALL Republicans. The politicians, but not you. And not any other person on this board. Or on this planet.

I'm sorry that I come across as a know it all sometimes.

But these things, deep down, in my heart and head are true. I'm no longer led around by the nose.

I trust not one politician to care about US.

I'd fight alongside you any day.
 

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I get the feeling that most of my comments are ignored. I've said repeatedly, #DECOUPLE.

As far as what Trump has been doing, most of his critics tend to put too much faith in the power of the President. Apple still pledged to bring back jobs to the US, and so did a lot of other companies. So, we can't ignore that what you're talking about wasn't already in the works. The problem is, that when you have a factory somewhere, it's really expensive and time consuming to move that factory - that's how China prevents companies from moving out.

You're right - one of Trumps themes all along has been to bring back manufacturing to the US, for the very reason you mentioned - relying too much on overseas will get us into trouble. This crisis is proof positive of that, as you said. I agree completely with that.

The only thing I would caution is that for the last 3 years, there have been significant efforts to do what Trump promised to do, and those efforts have been at least partially successful. Just because we're having trouble sourcing stuff now (that China was making for us) isn't proof that those efforts didn't occur.


Oh, and to anyone who says that China is a different country than it used to be, here's something you might be interested in.....

Organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners in China

My wife bought a Ivanka trump jacket last winter. I’m not a big fan of trump but whatever she wanted it. So anyway was Made in China. Zipper broke after about a month. Something to thing about.
 

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One mixed message after another. To keep us guessing, following, fighting amongst ourselves. WE have to change. WE need to take our country back.

I have more in common with you all than I/you have with them.

They aren't losing their jobs.
Or their retirement savings
Or home
Or car
Or life in most cases.

So called "Libs" are your enemy? Your enemy isn't me. In bold now : I AM NOT DOING THIS TO YOU.

AND YOU AREN'T DOING THIS TO ME.

"THEY" ARE DOING THIS TO "US"

Do not forget that. I am not Pelosi. Or Schumer. Or Trump or Barr.

And you aren't them. I'm not mad at you.
They did this to us " China" that is.

They never paid us back for WWII we flipped that bill its time to return the favor our nation's debt just went down by trillions. Stick it right up China's ass Trump!!! :bigfinger:
 

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I will say this, I have hardcore Democrat and hardcore republican friends on Facebook and what I see every single day is the republican friends posting hate shit towards democrats. Some of it it is tru but most of it is pure bs. I see almost no hate shut from the dems. To me it seems a lot of republicans are very afraid for no good reason.

Sorry Battlestorm but I call BS. 95% of the arguments in my area and circle of friends and family are hate-filled from the left, not the other way around (facebook, real-life, etc.).

Media? A lot of hate there and I dont see it being 50/50.

An example is my son goes to a state college here in Michigan and he was supporting John James (Running for US Senator in 2018/Republican who just happens to also be black). Bumper sticker was half torn off and car was keyed...

And if you do support Trump, which by the way people who choose to should be able to, try wearing a hat or tee shirt out in public.

And on a few occasions in public here in Michigan, I saw people last summer with shirts that said “F-Trump, and if YOU support Trump F YOU TOO” (Except the F word was fully spelled out).

I do not recall a time when people have wished for someone to fail even to the extent of causing demise of their own self Or to people in their circle......Think back to people on the left hoping for an economic downturn over the last couple of years just to hopefully get someone else in office (and there were many).

Where is the ridicule about the malaria drug now that Governor of NY is hopeful it will work????????
 

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I will say this, I have hardcore Democrat and hardcore republican friends on Facebook and what I see every single day is the republican friends posting hate shit towards democrats. Some of it it is tru but most of it is pure bs. I see almost no hate shut from the dems. To me it seems a lot of republicans are very afraid for no good reason.

Sorry Battlestorm but I call BS. 95% of the arguments in my area and circle of friends and family are hate-filled from the left, not the other way around (facebook, real-life, etc.).

Media? A lot of hate there and I dont see it being 50/50.

An example is my son goes to a state college here in Michigan and he was supporting John James (Running for US Senator in 2018/Republican who just happens to also be black). Bumper sticker was half torn off and car was keyed...

And if you do support Trump, which by the way people who choose to should be able to, try wearing a hat or tee shirt out in public.

And on a few occasions in public here in Michigan, I saw people last summer with shirts that said “F-Trump, and if YOU support Trump F YOU TOO” (Except the F word was fully spelled out).

I do not recall a time when people have wished for someone to fail even to the extent of causing demise of their own self Or to people in their circle......Think back to people on the left hoping for an economic downturn over the last couple of years just to hopefully get someone else in office (and there were many).

Where is the ridicule about the malaria drug now that Governor of NY is hopeful it will work????????
Not even making this about Trump, but I agree, how can you NOT see what the treasonous communist left has been doing? You are either blind, dumb and completely brainwashed, or you yourself hate America. It ABSOLUTELY BOGGLES MY MIND, that anyone that rides a snowmobile even remotely supports those treasonous criminals.
 

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Sorry Battlestorm but I call BS. 95% of the arguments in my area and circle of friends and family are hate-filled from the left, not the other way around (facebook, real-life, etc.).

Media? A lot of hate there and I dont see it being 50/50.

An example is my son goes to a state college here in Michigan and he was supporting John James (Running for US Senator in 2018/Republican who just happens to also be black). Bumper sticker was half torn off and car was keyed...

And if you do support Trump, which by the way people who choose to should be able to, try wearing a hat or tee shirt out in public.

And on a few occasions in public here in Michigan, I saw people last summer with shirts that said “F-Trump, and if YOU support Trump F YOU TOO” (Except the F word was fully spelled out).

I do not recall a time when people have wished for someone to fail even to the extent of causing demise of their own self Or to people in their circle......Think back to people on the left hoping for an economic downturn over the last couple of years just to hopefully get someone else in office (and there were many).

Where is the ridicule about the malaria drug now that Governor of NY is hopeful it will work????????
Totally agree. Posted some of my views to a few of my wife's liberal friends how disgusting its been that the dems are holding back this stimulus bill. Got called out for being a dangerous person not to mention a few other hateful remarks about trump.
 

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And if you do support Trump, which by the way people who choose to should be able to, try wearing a hat or tee shirt out in public.
Remember how the media persecuted this MINOR?? And how many of them have had to PAY for their LIES during the reporting of this story??

The hatred for Trump is unreal. Its absolutely ridiculous. Did I vote for the guy? Yes. Do I think he spews and could use some control of his Twitter keyboard? Yes. Do I think he is trying to do what is best for America?? ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY.
 

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“Ferguson now predicts that the epidemic in the U.K. will peak and subside within ‘two to three weeks’ — last week’s paper said 18+ months of quarantine would be necessary,” the former reporter highlighted.

“One last point here: Ferguson gives the lockdown credit, which is *interesting* — the UK only began [its] lockdown 2 days ago, and the theory is that lockdowns take 2 weeks or more to work,” stressed Berenson. “Not surprisingly, this testimony has received no attention in the US — I found it only in UK papers. Team Apocalypse is not interested.”

Ferguson’s change of tune comes days after Oxford epidemiologist Sunetra Gupta criticized the professor’s model.

“I am surprised that there has been such unqualified acceptance of the Imperial model,” Gupta said, according to the Financial Times.

Professor Gupta led a team of researchers at Oxford in a modeling study which suggests that the virus has been invisibly spreading for at least a month earlier than suspected, concluding that as many as half of the people in the United Kingdom have already been infected by COVID-19.

If her model is accurate, fewer than one in a thousand who’ve been infected with COVID-19 become sick enough to need hospitalization, leaving the vast majority with mild cases or free of symptoms.

In other words, Ferguson’s highly influential initial model was off by orders of magnitude.
 
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