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#1 ·
I’ve messed around with static balancing and can usually get down to about 3-8g using crude methods. But I can really tell the balanced vs not in how smooth they run compared to out of balance.
So my question: instead of drilling multiple holes in the cover, can one add weight instead of taking it out? I’ve seen some professionally balanced that have 10+ holes drilled in it. Each hole takes out so little, I wonder if added weight is better. Only like 3-8g of added weight, just like a tire. Gotta think at some point, the integrity of the cover would start to play a part.
If someone could explain why drilling the cover out is better than adding weight, I’d appreciate it.
 
#7 ·
Ok. If something could be added without the fear of coming off, are there any drawbacks to doing it this way?
The added meat to the cover is about 3/8” at most. Now take 75% ofnthat away multiplied by about 10 holes drilled in the cover. I have drilled out plenty of them and went through the cover a few times.
And clutches that serve over 600cc sleds, seems like the fixed sheave center shaft is out of round also. Almost all of them have a wobble so I’ve noticed. Lower hp rigs seem to stay true to form.
 
#8 ·
I seriously can't comprehend why anyone would do this to a piece of cast aluminum. With a crankshaft, your dealing with more surface are to fill a drilled hole. If you have a wobble, its not a balance issue, either the crank has excessive runout, or you have a defective clutch that needs replacement.
 
#9 ·
3-8 grams is more than the factory tolerance. 8 grams is almost three times the factory balance tolerance. I have balanced many clutches. Adding weight would not be a good idea on a clutch. If you are static balancing at home and guessing how much weight to remove you probably make the balance worse than original.
Adding weight can be done, but I wouldn't do it with a stock cover. TPI 911 covers for Polaris clutches have tapped holes for adding weight to correct the balance. The fancy Bikeman covers don't have any balancing provisions.:dunno:

Tires spin at about 500 RPM at 60MPH on average depending on tire size to a tolerance of .25 ounce or about 7grams.


A snowmobile clutch at 8000 RPM and 7 grams unbalance equals 70 lbs of centrifugal force swinging around on the end your crankshaft. I suggest leaving the balancing to the pros or leaving the factory job alone. A catastrophic failure at 8000 RPM would not be pretty.


There is much more to balancing than just removing the static imbalance. You could create a worse couple unbalance. Modern professional balancing machines remove static and couple unbalance at the same time, its called dynamic balancing. These can achieve results of around 100mg residual unbalance. 30x better than the OEM tolerance of 3grams.:bc2:
 
#13 ·
Our engine machinest had to make a special fixture tool for the polaris clutch taper to dynamically balance these clutches on his computerized crankshaft balancer machine. The clutches are spun at 500 rpm to find what degree angle they need weight taken off. If you spend enough time you can make a clutch perfect.
 
#11 ·
Your over thinking it. The covers are made to take weight out for balancing. If your drilling through the covers. Your simply drilling too far. The ribs on the under side of the cover are there for strength too. Your not drilling into them.
 
#12 ·
I appreciate each post and an explanation of the whole process regarding factory tolerance. Good info to know. Maybe tomorrow I’ll mess around with the dial indicator to measure any wobble just for fun....but then again, we just got about 10” of new snow. Shouldn’t be a hard decision on what to do!
 
#14 ·
I made my own mandrel that weighs roughly the same as the crankshaft. The clutch sit on the tapered end just like it does when in the sled. It gets balanced with the sheaves closed, no springs or weights. Yes, I can get them perfect, less than 100mg if I want.
 
#17 ·
Could remember the last time getting my clutch balanced back in the 00...cost just a 1/3 of that. Seen where most stock poo clutches on the sleds sold were well within spec., especially if running a stock trail sled. Funny thing was their new clutches sold as replacement parts....many were so far off, those are the ones i'd definitely have looked at.