[cyclonesledder]

O.K. here is the deal. I broke some studs on my F7 last year and was thinking about adding more because I don't think I have enough. I used the AC 102 pattern with woodys gold diggers. I think they are the 1.325's but not sure, but that isn't important. I am going to replace the broken and bent studs and put the big nuts on. How many more should I add and where should I add them? Should I use a double backer? Is this stronger or should I just buy more single backers?
Thanks in advance.
Paul

 

[Nuke Laloosh]

The taller nuts is a good idea, but that doesn't fix the problem. Your studs are bending & ripping out because of 2 reasons.... You dont have enough picks for one. When the track is under-picked, the few picks you do have take alot of abuse & stress. By adding more, you can stop that from happening.

Second, The picks are long. Although that is not a bad thing, it too will add stress to the picks if there arent enough.

If you want to add picks, you will have to do it in a way that will keep the track balanced. So, adding a pick to every/ or every other lug will help dramatically. Try to alternate the side where you will add the pick. This will keep it balanced on the track. If it is unbalanced, the sled will either pull to one side, or the track will shimmy.....not good either way.

Kinda like this.....(doesnt have to be exact)

+ = your picks
X = new picks you will add
_________ = lugs of track



_____________________________________
-------- + ---+ --------- X------------
_____________________________________
------- X ------------------- + ---+ ----
_____________________________________
------- + ---+ ----------- X--------
_____________________________________


Do you kinda get the idea?

Another option would be to get a new track & start fresh with a 150 pick pattern. For refference, I will have 170 in mine this year. Hope I helped. :div20:

 

[cyclonesledder]

Don't think I have any rips or pull thoughs. Just bent and broken studs from ridding in marginal condtions. I do live in Iowa, so if the ground is mostly white, we ride! But anyway was thinking about just studding every closed window. I had a buddy do this on a 03 but he had problems with his hyfax. Gone in 500 miles. But he was running the plastic backer and nut combo. So I think that was his problem because now all of his studs are loose and falling out. Thanks for the reply.
Paul

 

[Nuke Laloosh]

Sounds like a plan. The hyfax will wear out pre-maturely because of the picks, but it shouldn't be too bad. (I replace my hyfax about 3 times a year.....roughly every 400-600 miles) That is no big deal.


By adding one to every closed window you will notice a big difference. Post back how good the launch is. :div20:

 

[cyclonesledder]

Whoa! 400-600 miles? That seems like awful short life to me. I'm use to getting 1000-1200 miles out of hyfax, and I ride in some real marginal condtions. I may need some more imput befrore do the closed window. We take a trip every year and we ride 700-900 miles on that trip. So I would have to change my hyfax on vacation. Not fun! Not sure it is worth the killer launch if it is that hard on hyfax.
Thanks again
Paul

 

[jjlrrw]

Originally posted by cyclonesledder@Sep 27 2005, 10:45 PM
Whoa!  400-600 miles?  That seems like awful short life to me.  I'm use to getting 1000-1200 miles out of hyfax, and I ride in some real marginal condtions.  I may need some more imput befrore do the closed window.  We take a trip every year and we ride 700-900 miles on that trip.  So I would have to change my hyfax on vacation.  Not fun!  Not sure it is worth the killer launch if it is that hard on hyfax.
Thanks again
Paul
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Agree! I have 4300 miles and on the 2nd pair, still in good shape but I have been on good snow 95% of the time. I have a friend who also is lucky to get 800 miles on a set, but after riding with him I understand why, he would rather ride 5 miles down a road with next to no snow just to get to the next stop where I will take the 25 mile trail. Sometimes the shortest point from A - B make no sense.