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91 Ethanol free gas

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#1 ·
So I’m just getting back into snowmobiling after a 15 year hiatus. I just picked up on Monday a 2019 Arctic cat ZR 8000. I can find 90 octane ethanol free but not 91. Can I run 90 ethanol free? Without a problem? And second Can I run 91 octane with ethanol? I don’t know what the best choice is but I don’t want any engine issues.
 
#2 ·
I don’t know that particular snowmobile or engine, but most any should run ‘O.K.’ On regular 87 octane with 10% ethanol. No matter, I search out non-ethanol fuel anywhere I go, most smaller engines.

To me it’s a bigger deal when stored. I’d want just about 100% of the non-ethanol fuel in the tank, and engine. I often go with over 50% 100 LL aviation fuel on top of the ethanol free gas.
 
#11 · (Edited)
I don’t know that particular snowmobile or engine, but most any should run ‘O.K.’ On regular 87 octane with 10% ethanol. No matter, I search out non-ethanol fuel anywhere I go, most smaller engines.

To me it’s a bigger deal when stored. I’d want just about 100% of the non-ethanol fuel in the tank, and engine. I often go with over 50% 100 LL aviation fuel on top of the ethanol free gas.
In the bold , not the 8000 engine, thats premium only. And the posts about peoples stations in Their area that have ethanol free fuel may not be the same in the OP's area.

For those who want it here is a link to Pure Fuel dot Orgs site. It's constanly updated so it works pretty good

https://www.pure-gas.org/ And on the bottom the opening page there are links to both Android and iPhone links to download apps for your phones, Enjoy!
 
#3 · (Edited)
You will be fine with 90 octane/no ethanol

Per the owners manual
The recommended gasoline to use in this
snowmobile is minimum 91 octane gaso-
line with a maximum 10% ethanol content.

NOTE: For optimum performance,
use only 91 octane (minimum) gasoline.
Gasolines containing more than 10% eth-
anol are not acceptable gasoline for use
in this snowmobile. Do not use gasolines
containing methanol.
CAUTION
Do not use white gas or gasoline con-
taining methanol. Only Arctic Cat-
approved gasoline additives should
be used.
CAUTION
If a situation arises wherein 91 octane
non-ethanol or 91 octane with maximum
10% ethanol gasoline is not available, 87
octane gasoline can be substituted in
an emergency; however, the prolonged
usage of 87 octane gasoline can cause
severe engine damage.
 
#4 ·
#7 ·
I always use non ethanol, which always seems to be 90 octane. Every couple of tanks I add some k100, my cat dealer recommended it when I bought the sled. If you happen to be in NY, I’ve found the Stewart’s Shops in my area have 91 non ethanol. Enjoy the new sled, I was in your same position last season.
 
#12 · (Edited)
Szledhead;20382700[B said:
]In the bold , not the 8000 engine, thats premium only.[/B] And the posts about peoples stations in Their area that have ethanol free fuel may not be the same in the OP's area.

For those who want it here is a link to Pure Fuel dot Orgs site. It's constanly updated so it works pretty good

https://www.pure-gas.org/ And on the bottom the opening page there are links to both Android and iPhone links to download apps for your phones, Enjoy!
In the bold: I've been in spots in Canada where 87 is the only fuel, the sled pulls timing when it knocks and the only time it knocks is when holding it wide open for a stretch.
 
#13 ·
Octane is octane that's the only true measurement everything else is opinion that makes someone feel warm and fuzzy. If your engine requires a certain octane then it will run best with that octane or slightly more. If you run less octane than required your computer will compensate to a certain degree by retarding timing and you will lose performance. There is absolutely ZERO proof that running 93 ethonal causes any harm to a modern vehicle ESPECIALLY when its burned through right away. The most agreed upon concencess is non ethonal fuel is better for a vehicle that's stored. You can also add fuel stabilizer to 93 ethonal premium for extra protection while stored. If paying more for less octane and less performance all while being inconvenienced to find it makes you feel superior to others where you post about how you run non ethonal rec fuel on the internet then please pay extra for your ego. The best practice is to run the proper octane, always top off with fresh fuel before each ride, and use fuel stabilizer when anything sits for extended periods. Enjoy your new sled congrats!!!
 
#14 ·
"Rec" gas is available in our area. 90 octane, no ethanol. I top off the sleds with it for the off season and add seafoam or startron. At least 10 gallons in each sled. When the snow starts to fly I siphon it out and pour it into my 1959 Ford tractor or my car(s) then start the season fresh with "new" gas for the sleds. I've had problems with ethanol gas in the past. The fuel level sending unit ( ATV's) stopped working and had ethanol build up on the contacts. This was in the winter as the atv's get used very little. After I replaced the fuel level sender ($), I take precautions not to have that happen again. Keeping the level sender submerged is a biggie with the correct fuel and a stabilizer. Never a problem since.