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No. Having used the 4.3" PIDD, One of the faults of that was that the GPS map was too small to be seen, especially when changing focus from distant to near. The better solution is to allow selection of some vehicle indicators to overlay part of the GPS map screen. like MPH does now. Another solution is to auto cycle thru some of those metrics in a cycle such as MPH, RPM, coolant temp, then back to MPH. Could be a combination of both.
 

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I've tried but mostly failed, to use ride command, group rides, track my ride, plan a route, waypoints, etc. All efforts were frustrating and unsatisfactory. The 7s map is nice. Is there a tutorial for Dummies?
 

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The biggest problem with the 7S display is the lack of WIFI internet connection. The device uses Bluetooth tethering to "communicate" with the update server, ride command server and it's just a clunky mess. I would bet most riders simply never obtained proper internet connections, which would allow them to have unlimited tracking of their friends using a 7S.

Low and behold.....Polaris has a fix coming:


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This will be available on all 2021 and 2022 devices as an update. Sled season is quickly approaching and we still haven't heard much yet and the update is still not out. But -- this fixes and adds new functionality.
 

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The biggest problem with the 7S display is the lack of WIFI internet connection. The device uses Bluetooth tethering to "communicate" with the update server, ride command server and it's just a clunky mess. I would bet most riders simply never obtained proper internet connections, which would allow them to have unlimited tracking of their friends using a 7S.

Low and behold.....Polaris has a fix coming:




This will be available on all 2021 and 2022 devices as an update. Sled season is quickly approaching and we still haven't heard much yet and the update is still not out. But -- this fixes and adds new functionality.
1. Wifi connectivity will be helpful for communicating with the Ride Command Website Server, When you are stationary, have a Wifi connection and want to send rides or waypoints up to the RideCommand cloud, or bring them down to your gauge.

2. Wifi connectivity will also be a choice to download trail map information, Satellite view background (with MY22 software), and newer versions of software, ONCE the MY22 version of software has been installed. For gauges with MY21 software this can only be done by using a USB flash drive, that had the files put on it, by a computer that was on the internet.

EDITED Oct. 15, 2021 (been operating a MY22 7SDD for a few hours this afternoon).
3. Wifi cannot be used for group ride sharing. It will not work using the phone as a Wifi hotspot. You can use Wifi to upload/download Rides and Waypoints to/from the RideCommand website.

4. The MY22 software IS NOT YET available for updating the MY21 gauges. Sometime in November 2021 is the word from Polaris.
 

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We never had issues seeing each other on the map. Showed direction and distance in real time. As long as we set up the group ride anyway. Had to make sure we were all tied in as we launched out.
 

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We never had issues seeing each other on the map. Showed direction and distance in real time. As long as we set up the group ride anyway. Had to make sure we were all tied in as we launched out.
That is good to hear. Those who were doing a group ride, with all 7SDD displays in the group and not too far apart, seemed to have good success. They were using the V2V (Vehicle to Vehicle) feature, which provides builtin radio communications.

Most that had difficulty in establishing a group ride, were trying to connect the 7SDD thru a cell phone to the RideCommand cloud, so that they could see others, who were using the RideCommand app on their smartphone,
 

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That is good to hear. Those who were doing a group ride, with all 7SDD displays in the group and not too far apart, seemed to have good success. They were using the V2V (Vehicle to Vehicle) feature, which provides builtin radio communications.

Most that had difficulty in establishing a group ride, were trying to connect the 7SDD thru a cell phone to the RideCommand cloud, so that they could see others, who were using the RideCommand app on their smartphone,
That makes sense, we had 3 in our crew with 7S but we connected right on the screen with password. We could also see other groups in the area, kinda cool. We agreed early on for the same password every time so there is never a question.
 

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Excursion, I am going to update my 7s in the next couple of days. It says on Ride Command to update the Base Map if you have noticed road construction or changing of routes (which I have not). Do you recommend updating the base map regardless?

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Excursion, I am going to update my 7s in the next couple of days. It says on Ride Command to update the Base Map if you have noticed road construction or changing of routes (which I have not). Do you recommend updating the base map regardless?

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NO, I do not recommend updating the 7SDD Base Map. I download it approximately once a month, and it has not changed yet. It is HUGE: 33.7GB. I expect it might change, when they issue the MY22 software.
 

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Hope these questions aren’t repetitive but my sled is currently 2hrs away so I can’t test at present. I have a MY22 Vr1.
1. I’ve built and saved a Planned route on the Ride Command app. How do I upload it to the 7s?
2. I have some non-Polaris sleds in our group. If they install the Ride Command app on their phone, can they be added to a group ride I setup so I see them on my 7s?
Thanks for the help.
 

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Hope these questions aren’t repetitive but my sled is currently 2hrs away so I can’t test at present. I have a MY22 Vr1.
1. I’ve built and saved a Planned route on the Ride Command app. How do I upload it to the 7s?
2. I have some non-Polaris sleds in our group. If they install the Ride Command app on their phone, can they be added to a group ride I setup so I see them on my 7s?
Thanks for the help.
At this time, the MY22 software has not been released to upgrade the MY21 7SDD gauges, so I will cover what I have used and tested.

1. I’ve built and saved a Planned route on the Ride Command app. How do I upload it to the 7s?

Bring up your route on Ride Command and take the option to download/export to a USB flash drive. It will be an xxxx.gpx file

Disconnect the flash drive, take it to your 7SDD and plug it into the USB cable on the 7SDD. Then on the 7SDD import that xxxx.gpx file.
You will need to identify this ride/route as being visible on your 7SDD. The MY21 7SDD has a limited number of rides/routes that can be visible at any one time.

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2. I have some non-Polaris sleds in our group. If they install the Ride Command app on their phone, can they be added to a group ride I setup so I see them on my 7s?

Anyone using the Ride Command app on a Smartphone, to join a group ride, needs to be connected to the Ride Command cloud via the internet. The Ride Command cloud will share their information with other members in that group.

For a 7SDD user to see and share the information of these Smartphone riders, the 7SDD must use a bluetooth tethered phone to connect to the Ride Command cloud to see and share that information. The Smartphone riders, do NOT connect to the 7SDD directly, only thru the RideCommand cloud.

Several riders equipped with 7SDD gauges can use ONE rider with a phone tethered 7SDD to join all the 7SDD riders to the RideCommand cloud (and also, any Smartphone app users that are connected to the cloud). The 7SDD users can then pass this information among each other thru the Vehicle to Vehicle Radio Transceiver built into all 7SDD gauges.
 

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At this time, the MY22 software has not been released to upgrade the MY21 7SDD gauges, so I will cover what I have used and tested.

1. I’ve built and saved a Planned route on the Ride Command app. How do I upload it to the 7s?

Bring up your route on Ride Command and take the option to download/export to a USB flash drive. It will be an xxxx.gpx file

Disconnect the flash drive, take it to your 7SDD and plug it into the USB cable on the 7SDD. Then on the 7SDD import that xxxx.gpx file.
You will need to identify this ride/route as being visible on your 7SDD. The MY21 7SDD has a limited number of rides/routes that can be visible at any one time.

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2. I have some non-Polaris sleds in our group. If they install the Ride Command app on their phone, can they be added to a group ride I setup so I see them on my 7s?

Anyone using the Ride Command app on a Smartphone, to join a group ride, needs to be connected to the Ride Command cloud via the internet. The Ride Command cloud will share their information with other members in that group.

For a 7SDD user to see and share the information of these Smartphone riders, the 7SDD must use a bluetooth tethered phone to connect to the Ride Command cloud to see and share that information. The Smartphone riders, do NOT connect to the 7SDD directly, only thru the RideCommand cloud.

Several riders equipped with 7SDD gauges can use ONE rider with a phone tethered 7SDD to join all the 7SDD riders to the RideCommand cloud (and also, any Smartphone app users that are connected to the cloud). The 7SDD users can then pass this information among each other thru the Vehicle to Vehicle Radio Transceiver built into all 7SDD gauges.
If riders in the group don't have 7SDD and are connected to Ride Command cloud with smartphones, what happens if they lose cellphone signal when riding? Will the rider with 7SDD lose them on the 7SDD screen?
Also, what size Flash Drive do you roughly need to save a planned ride?
 

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If riders in the group don't have 7SDD and are connected to Ride Command cloud with smartphones, what happens if they lose cellphone signal when riding? Will the rider with 7SDD lose them on the 7SDD screen?

I don't know the answer. Step one in finding it out, would be to have two smartphones on a group ride thru Ride Command cloud and see how quickly a lost signal Smartphone (put it in a metal bag), disappears from the cloud and disappears from the smartphone group ride screen of the other person in the group.


Also, what size Flash Drive do you roughly need to save a planned ride?

A recorded day long ride, like I did Monday in Houghton county Michigan will be 2 to 8 MB.

A planned drive/route will be much smaller in size.
 
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After noticing that the 7S display update on ATVs specifically mentions only available for model year 2022 or newer. I'm thinking the 2021 7S doesn't have wifi capabilities and is a different hardware configuration. Soooo..... Wifi doesn't appear to be in our future. The Bluetooth tethering was a major blunder by Polaris. Is what it is.
 

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After noticing that the 7S display update on ATVs specifically mentions only available for model year 2022 or newer. I'm thinking the 2021 7S doesn't have wifi capabilities and is a different hardware configuration. Soooo..... Wifi doesn't appear to be in our future. The Bluetooth tethering was a major blunder by Polaris. Is what it is.
No that's wrong. Polaris has made it very clear that the MY22 software will update the MY21 7SDD hardware. I have had communications with them regarding this in the last 2 days.
 

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So you confirmed they put a WiFi device in the 7S and simply choose to not use it previously?
Has anyone received a 2022 7S display that is WIFI capable?

I expected my 2022 VR1 display to be WIFI capable when it arrived??

Reading the owners manual and using the display, I‘m unable to locate any WIFI capability.

Was my sled shipped with a 2021 vice a 2022 gauge?

It appears I have to wait for the “November” software update that is not out yet for my 2022 sled?

Thank-you
 
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