Hardcore Sledder banner
161 - 180 of 559 Posts
Can you imagine in 2025 ssaying you can't do the job because your a women?

On the snowbike thing. Most of they guys started switching last year to MTN Top Kits. New kit owned by the original owner and developer of Timbersled Allen Mangnum. They say they are incrediable and one ride you will want to switch. Lot lighter more playful feeling kit with ease of lifting the front ski with proper throttle and body position.

Still have MTN Top, Yeti, Mototrax, Rale companies making snowbike kits. Camso discontinued.
I see a lot of bike tracks in the UP but I've never actually seen one. Likely become too much of a niche for Polaris to continue to invest the resources.
 
I see a lot of bike tracks in the UP but I've never actually seen one. Likely become too much of a niche for Polaris to continue to invest the resources.
I have spent time riding them in the U.P. as well. But the rest of my family has sleds so it doesn't make sense for me when I am mostly riding with family now. You really need to be on the same type of machine as everyone else. Snowbikes still ar are not much fun on the trail. YOu can do it but end up fighting the carbide on the ski the entire time.

I wonder how much of the decision ws that Allens non compete was up?
 
Who cares if there is a girl in charge of the snow business. She doesn't need to be knowledgeable enough to participate on this forum. Half the people on here aren't knowledgeable enough and we tolerate them. She needs to know how to run a business division and that goes well beyond clutching and suspension calibration.

I'm the sales manager for an oil company and easily one of my best reps is a woman. We do not diversity hire. Should I fire her because she doesn't fit the mold?
You don't understand my post, are a white knight, or a little of both.
I operate a successful business that I started from nothing and nearly every friend I have has started either one or multiple businesses. You know what we all have in common? We have a serious passion for what we do and have the desire to know more about each of our fields more than our competition. Most of us exhibited traits of above average knowledge along with the passion in our specific fields from a young age which led to most of us starting and owning a successful business. We all have a long history in each of our fields. We had the motivation to do well in each specific area from a young age because we had above average passion and drive to be the best in each of our particular fields as we grew up. We never stop learning and we have a strong desire and drive to keep learning every piece of information that might keep you a step ahead of your competition. If you don't have these qualities, you have no business being a VP of any company.
Let me ask you this, do you think Jenny is out riding by herself on Friday night even if her riding buddies cancel? Do you think Jenny is researching & reading on HCS about the competitors new models in her free time? Do you think she has framed pictures of sleds & old sled advertisements hanging in her garage or house from her golden riding years? Do you think she calls her girlfriends and talks to them about the problem she can't figure out on her sled or to ask if they have had good luck with an aftermarket part on their sled? I'm sure she has a 90s triple in the garage that she is polishing up while she checks the snow forecast 3 times a day in late November, right? I hope this gives you some clarification

Just because topics like clutch and suspension calibration come up on here doesn't automatically mean I think she should know all about them, that's a ridiculous statement you made and you know it. That wasn't the point of my post and I think you know that too but you chose to bring up a random specific thread topic and make the statement so I'm going to address it.
What do you think the chances are that she could explain in basic terms how a clutch works? There is no passion if you cant explain basic snowmobile mechanical systems and how they operate. With passion comes the drive to do better than your competition, this is essential if you want to succeed to the top and the declining market share speaks for itself. I am not saying that she is the one and only problem for the decline in market share, but I am making sure I mention it because I'm fairly sure the next comment you'll make is telling me how it's not all her fault. The executives at her level make serious large scale decisions and she has definitely had a part in the decline and I'll leave it at that.

Sorry but a sales manager has no idea the types of decisions VP's make along with the knowledge and expertise needed to make these types of decisions at that level. My brother is a VP for a large bank and I talk with him regularly about the direction, decisions and steps they go through and although I know it doesn't directly correlate with snowmobiles, the same logic applies. He is very passionate about the banking industry, was very sharp in mathematics from a young age, did extremely well in finance courses which earned him masters degrees in mathematics & the banking and finance field. The time and processes regarding the decisions at that level for each execution is absolutely absurd. It's mind boggling the amount of information you need to keep up to date on and remember in order to make decisions that will ensure you stay at the top of your industry.

Do you think there might be a difference between participating in an enthusiast recreational sport vs oil? Are you trying to say these 2 subjects are similar in some way? Not to say there aren't oil geeks on You Tube, but I'd say it's not a very popular passionate subject for groups of people vs snowmobiling. I'd be willing to wager that it's not very common to hear of a group of guys getting together for a garage night to have a beer and talk/look/fix(?) oil, talk to the guys about the new oil specifications each year by manufacturer, travel across the country for oil meets and swaps, participate in vintage oil shows or see flyers around town for an oil meetup do you?
 
You don't understand my post, are a white knight, or a little of both.
I operate a successful business that I started from nothing and nearly every friend I have has started either one or multiple businesses. You know what we all have in common? We have a serious passion for what we do and have the desire to know more about each of our fields more than our competition. Most of us exhibited traits of above average knowledge along with the passion in our specific fields from a young age which led to most of us starting and owning a successful business. We all have a long history in each of our fields. We had the motivation to do well in each specific area from a young age because we had above average passion and drive to be the best in each of our particular fields as we grew up. We never stop learning and we have a strong desire and drive to keep learning every piece of information that might keep you a step ahead of your competition. If you don't have these qualities, you have no business being a VP of any company.
Let me ask you this, do you think Jenny is out riding by herself on Friday night even if her riding buddies cancel? Do you think Jenny is researching & reading on HCS about the competitors new models in her free time? Do you think she has framed pictures of sleds & old sled advertisements hanging in her garage or house from her golden riding years? Do you think she calls her girlfriends and talks to them about the problem she can't figure out on her sled or to ask if they have had good luck with an aftermarket part on their sled? I'm sure she has a 90s triple in the garage that she is polishing up while she checks the snow forecast 3 times a day in late November, right? I hope this gives you some clarification

Just because topics like clutch and suspension calibration come up on here doesn't automatically mean I think she should know all about them, that's a ridiculous statement you made and you know it. That wasn't the point of my post and I think you know that too but you chose to bring up a random specific thread topic and make the statement so I'm going to address it.
What do you think the chances are that she could explain in basic terms how a clutch works? There is no passion if you cant explain basic snowmobile mechanical systems and how they operate. With passion comes the drive to do better than your competition, this is essential if you want to succeed to the top and the declining market share speaks for itself. I am not saying that she is the one and only problem for the decline in market share, but I am making sure I mention it because I'm fairly sure the next comment you'll make is telling me how it's not all her fault. The executives at her level make serious large scale decisions and she has definitely had a part in the decline and I'll leave it at that.

Sorry but a sales manager has no idea the types of decisions VP's make along with the knowledge and expertise needed to make these types of decisions at that level. My brother is a VP for a large bank and I talk with him regularly about the direction, decisions and steps they go through and although I know it doesn't directly correlate with snowmobiles, the same logic applies. He is very passionate about the banking industry, was very sharp in mathematics from a young age, did extremely well in finance courses which earned him masters degrees in mathematics & the banking and finance field. The time and processes regarding the decisions at that level for each execution is absolutely absurd. It's mind boggling the amount of information you need to keep up to date on and remember in order to make decisions that will ensure you stay at the top of your industry.

Do you think there might be a difference between participating in an enthusiast recreational sport vs oil? Are you trying to say these 2 subjects are similar in some way? Not to say there aren't oil geeks on You Tube, but I'd say it's not a very popular passionate subject for groups of people vs snowmobiling. I'd be willing to wager that it's not very common to hear of a group of guys getting together for a garage night to have a beer and talk/look/fix(?) oil, talk to the guys about the new oil specifications each year by manufacturer, travel across the country for oil meets and swaps, participate in vintage oil shows or see flyers around town for an oil meetup do you?
Aaaaaallllll that when you could have just said, "because I'm a chauvinist".
 
You don't understand my post, are a white knight, or a little of both.
I operate a successful business that I started from nothing and nearly every friend I have has started either one or multiple businesses. You know what we all have in common? We have a serious passion for what we do and have the desire to know more about each of our fields more than our competition. Most of us exhibited traits of above average knowledge along with the passion in our specific fields from a young age which led to most of us starting and owning a successful business. We all have a long history in each of our fields. We had the motivation to do well in each specific area from a young age because we had above average passion and drive to be the best in each of our particular fields as we grew up. We never stop learning and we have a strong desire and drive to keep learning every piece of information that might keep you a step ahead of your competition. If you don't have these qualities, you have no business being a VP of any company.
Let me ask you this, do you think Jenny is out riding by herself on Friday night even if her riding buddies cancel? Do you think Jenny is researching & reading on HCS about the competitors new models in her free time? Do you think she has framed pictures of sleds & old sled advertisements hanging in her garage or house from her golden riding years? Do you think she calls her girlfriends and talks to them about the problem she can't figure out on her sled or to ask if they have had good luck with an aftermarket part on their sled? I'm sure she has a 90s triple in the garage that she is polishing up while she checks the snow forecast 3 times a day in late November, right? I hope this gives you some clarification

Just because topics like clutch and suspension calibration come up on here doesn't automatically mean I think she should know all about them, that's a ridiculous statement you made and you know it. That wasn't the point of my post and I think you know that too but you chose to bring up a random specific thread topic and make the statement so I'm going to address it.
What do you think the chances are that she could explain in basic terms how a clutch works? There is no passion if you cant explain basic snowmobile mechanical systems and how they operate. With passion comes the drive to do better than your competition, this is essential if you want to succeed to the top and the declining market share speaks for itself. I am not saying that she is the one and only problem for the decline in market share, but I am making sure I mention it because I'm fairly sure the next comment you'll make is telling me how it's not all her fault. The executives at her level make serious large scale decisions and she has definitely had a part in the decline and I'll leave it at that.

Sorry but a sales manager has no idea the types of decisions VP's make along with the knowledge and expertise needed to make these types of decisions at that level. My brother is a VP for a large bank and I talk with him regularly about the direction, decisions and steps they go through and although I know it doesn't directly correlate with snowmobiles, the same logic applies. He is very passionate about the banking industry, was very sharp in mathematics from a young age, did extremely well in finance courses which earned him masters degrees in mathematics & the banking and finance field. The time and processes regarding the decisions at that level for each execution is absolutely absurd. It's mind boggling the amount of information you need to keep up to date on and remember in order to make decisions that will ensure you stay at the top of your industry.

Do you think there might be a difference between participating in an enthusiast recreational sport vs oil? Are you trying to say these 2 subjects are similar in some way? Not to say there aren't oil geeks on You Tube, but I'd say it's not a very popular passionate subject for groups of people vs snowmobiling. I'd be willing to wager that it's not very common to hear of a group of guys getting together for a garage night to have a beer and talk/look/fix(?) oil, talk to the guys about the new oil specifications each year by manufacturer, travel across the country for oil meets and swaps, participate in vintage oil shows or see flyers around town for an oil meetup do you?
Might be the best post I have read on this forum so far..
 
Snowest had an audio-only podcast yesterday about the Timbersled, and this was their conclusion. They liked snow bikes and had built some fairly good performing machines, but they claim that when factory 2-stroke turbos started coming out for snowmobiles, that pretty much killed the chance that snow bikes would have a future. I don't know much about it, either way, but it seems like they saw the end coming and agree with Polaris' decision to stop production.

They also said there were smaller players - including the original founder of Timbersled - who will still be making conversion kits.
It was funny how the truth was came out about how crappy snowbikes are in regards to reliability and runnability of their dirt bike engines in snow. Riding in snow prematurely wears out the already very high strung 4-stroke 450 engines.
 
I personally happen to love the standard gauge. I Always opt out of the pidd or 7s. Rpm/ temp on display and my cell phone goes on airplane mode when riding. Would rather spend the extra $ on other stuff. Guess I'm stuck in 1997
In my opinion the map is worth its weight in gold and the other information / customization of gauges is neat I like knowing different things altitude is cool time outside temp etc. I don’t use my phone with the sled I remember a call popping up one time on my screen and I was shocked and made sure to stop it from doing that. I suppose I just like a premium look / interface to interact with. Not a big fan of many of the all digital dashes in a lot of new vehicles. My pickup has a beautiful Cluster with nice analog gauge bezels and a smaller screen inbetween the gauges and I prefer that to the all digital version the came out with a year or two later. The Polaris standard gauge just looks cheesey to me whether it’s on a 4 wheeler a SxS or a sled
 
Because i snowmobile I don’t look at gauges or need something telling me where I’m at. huge waste of money for? im beating you have a smart phone in your pocket that does navigation. Gas gauge and tach Is all someone needs why would you spend thousands on nothing that makes the sled run and handle better
No cell reception on your phone in the woods for starters. I have a hard time seeing the standard gauge at speed when glancing at it
 
I think they took away the 850 from the XCR to move people back to the VR1 who still want a 850 and to sell more Dynamix since its still cheaper then the XCR 9R option. Dynamix was kinda a flop last yr. Lots of leftovers on the dealer floors that never sold. The XCR should've got shocks with Rebound, not just 20% stiffer valving
 
Legit question here... did a build on a Switchback Assault. WTH are Polaris TS shocks?
"Polaris Terrain Select (TS) shocks deliver confidence and control with a smooth ride. They feature 5-position compression adjustment."
Sound almost like the AC Sno Pro shocks.

I thought the Assault got Walker Evans fully adjustable shocks??

Second question... Are the QS3 shocks on the SC similar to those Cat used? I loved mine, especially after having them rebuilt and valved for me ($300).
When I first built a few Assaults the website showed the TS Shocks when I picked one of the “non premium” color options…that changed at some point and now all the Assaults show Velocities. Must have been a glitch.
 
You don't understand my post, are a white knight, or a little of both.
I operate a successful business that I started from nothing and nearly every friend I have has started either one or multiple businesses. You know what we all have in common? We have a serious passion for what we do and have the desire to know more about each of our fields more than our competition. Most of us exhibited traits of above average knowledge along with the passion in our specific fields from a young age which led to most of us starting and owning a successful business. We all have a long history in each of our fields. We had the motivation to do well in each specific area from a young age because we had above average passion and drive to be the best in each of our particular fields as we grew up. We never stop learning and we have a strong desire and drive to keep learning every piece of information that might keep you a step ahead of your competition. If you don't have these qualities, you have no business being a VP of any company.
Let me ask you this, do you think Jenny is out riding by herself on Friday night even if her riding buddies cancel? Do you think Jenny is researching & reading on HCS about the competitors new models in her free time? Do you think she has framed pictures of sleds & old sled advertisements hanging in her garage or house from her golden riding years? Do you think she calls her girlfriends and talks to them about the problem she can't figure out on her sled or to ask if they have had good luck with an aftermarket part on their sled? I'm sure she has a 90s triple in the garage that she is polishing up while she checks the snow forecast 3 times a day in late November, right? I hope this gives you some clarification

Just because topics like clutch and suspension calibration come up on here doesn't automatically mean I think she should know all about them, that's a ridiculous statement you made and you know it. That wasn't the point of my post and I think you know that too but you chose to bring up a random specific thread topic and make the statement so I'm going to address it.
What do you think the chances are that she could explain in basic terms how a clutch works? There is no passion if you cant explain basic snowmobile mechanical systems and how they operate. With passion comes the drive to do better than your competition, this is essential if you want to succeed to the top and the declining market share speaks for itself. I am not saying that she is the one and only problem for the decline in market share, but I am making sure I mention it because I'm fairly sure the next comment you'll make is telling me how it's not all her fault. The executives at her level make serious large scale decisions and she has definitely had a part in the decline and I'll leave it at that.

Sorry but a sales manager has no idea the types of decisions VP's make along with the knowledge and expertise needed to make these types of decisions at that level. My brother is a VP for a large bank and I talk with him regularly about the direction, decisions and steps they go through and although I know it doesn't directly correlate with snowmobiles, the same logic applies. He is very passionate about the banking industry, was very sharp in mathematics from a young age, did extremely well in finance courses which earned him masters degrees in mathematics & the banking and finance field. The time and processes regarding the decisions at that level for each execution is absolutely absurd. It's mind boggling the amount of information you need to keep up to date on and remember in order to make decisions that will ensure you stay at the top of your industry.

Do you think there might be a difference between participating in an enthusiast recreational sport vs oil? Are you trying to say these 2 subjects are similar in some way? Not to say there aren't oil geeks on You Tube, but I'd say it's not a very popular passionate subject for groups of people vs snowmobiling. I'd be willing to wager that it's not very common to hear of a group of guys getting together for a garage night to have a beer and talk/look/fix(?) oil, talk to the guys about the new oil specifications each year by manufacturer, travel across the country for oil meets and swaps, participate in vintage oil shows or see flyers around town for an oil meetup do you?
Ahh that was a very long post. I wonder if you ever worked for a large OEM that trades on the stock market? Everyone has a role. Marketing and design usually has what they want before we even get involved. There is so much ANSI testing that goes through the labs before a product can even launch. Like I said, a large public company has a process that has to be followed. And you also have people that are very passionate about their part of the job that are not afraid to tell you to stay in your own lane because our department handles that. Which makes sense because you really don't want an accountant playing engineer anyway. Management is just that, Management.
 
You don't understand my post, are a white knight, or a little of both.
I operate a successful business that I started from nothing and nearly every friend I have has started either one or multiple businesses. You know what we all have in common? We have a serious passion for what we do and have the desire to know more about each of our fields more than our competition. Most of us exhibited traits of above average knowledge along with the passion in our specific fields from a young age which led to most of us starting and owning a successful business. We all have a long history in each of our fields. We had the motivation to do well in each specific area from a young age because we had above average passion and drive to be the best in each of our particular fields as we grew up. We never stop learning and we have a strong desire and drive to keep learning every piece of information that might keep you a step ahead of your competition. If you don't have these qualities, you have no business being a VP of any company.
Let me ask you this, do you think Jenny is out riding by herself on Friday night even if her riding buddies cancel? Do you think Jenny is researching & reading on HCS about the competitors new models in her free time? Do you think she has framed pictures of sleds & old sled advertisements hanging in her garage or house from her golden riding years? Do you think she calls her girlfriends and talks to them about the problem she can't figure out on her sled or to ask if they have had good luck with an aftermarket part on their sled? I'm sure she has a 90s triple in the garage that she is polishing up while she checks the snow forecast 3 times a day in late November, right? I hope this gives you some clarification

Just because topics like clutch and suspension calibration come up on here doesn't automatically mean I think she should know all about them, that's a ridiculous statement you made and you know it. That wasn't the point of my post and I think you know that too but you chose to bring up a random specific thread topic and make the statement so I'm going to address it.
What do you think the chances are that she could explain in basic terms how a clutch works? There is no passion if you cant explain basic snowmobile mechanical systems and how they operate. With passion comes the drive to do better than your competition, this is essential if you want to succeed to the top and the declining market share speaks for itself. I am not saying that she is the one and only problem for the decline in market share, but I am making sure I mention it because I'm fairly sure the next comment you'll make is telling me how it's not all her fault. The executives at her level make serious large scale decisions and she has definitely had a part in the decline and I'll leave it at that.

Sorry but a sales manager has no idea the types of decisions VP's make along with the knowledge and expertise needed to make these types of decisions at that level. My brother is a VP for a large bank and I talk with him regularly about the direction, decisions and steps they go through and although I know it doesn't directly correlate with snowmobiles, the same logic applies. He is very passionate about the banking industry, was very sharp in mathematics from a young age, did extremely well in finance courses which earned him masters degrees in mathematics & the banking and finance field. The time and processes regarding the decisions at that level for each execution is absolutely absurd. It's mind boggling the amount of information you need to keep up to date on and remember in order to make decisions that will ensure you stay at the top of your industry.

Do you think there might be a difference between participating in an enthusiast recreational sport vs oil? Are you trying to say these 2 subjects are similar in some way? Not to say there aren't oil geeks on You Tube, but I'd say it's not a very popular passionate subject for groups of people vs snowmobiling. I'd be willing to wager that it's not very common to hear of a group of guys getting together for a garage night to have a beer and talk/look/fix(?) oil, talk to the guys about the new oil specifications each year by manufacturer, travel across the country for oil meets and swaps, participate in vintage oil shows or see flyers around town for an oil meetup do you?
And you came to the conclusion that Jenny isn't any of those things how??? I'll say if for you. Because she's a woman.

You don't know Jenny. We know you don't know Jenny. Jenny could be all of those things... Because she's a person. Sometimes women are just as into riding as us. She's been in several manager and director positions within the past 10 years with Polaris. From on road, to off road, and now to snow.

Just don't post if you got nothing to say about the new lineup lol I can build an entire sled from the ground up. I've been on a team where we designed and built a Formula SAE car from raw materials. I still couldn't be the VP of Polaris. Jenny seems a lot more qualified than I do.

DEI?? Good God. Way to be one of the reasons DEI ever became a thing.
 
Jenny as VP.... Of course, somebody found this should be a part of our 2026 line up discussion. :LOL: What the Hell.... Why not.

I really don't think she made any track choice decisions or decisions on which models did or didn't get an 850? I don't think any of us know if she knows clutching or loved triples or keeps old sled pictures in her garage. We could all just assume she doesn't have great wrench turning knowledge and probably likes shopping for dresses and buying a 100 pairs of high heals? Polaris can decide who they want to pay as their VP and I bet the criteria for the person for the job isn't based too much on wrenching abilities. I bet she has real riding passion and is more sled knowledgeable than what many might think. She was much better to look at than having greasy Steve that just rebuilt his Fusion 900 stand there and read the script for us. I'd of been more concerned if Aunt Jemima came out introducing the new sleds.

In comparison of other disappointing things... Look at the VP's past and present of our country. None of them have a clue what it is like to live as an average person that lives in this country. I bet they can't cook a meal, run a lawn mower or even go buy their own groceries. Just chosen puppets that listen and do what their bosses tell them to do. Jenny did a good job reading the scripts made up by the management of Polaris and our Countries VP's and P's read the scripts for their biggest campaign donors. The VP position is just an overpaid person that listens to others and then has the job to tell us what decisions were made below them.
 
In my opinion the map is worth its weight in gold and the other information / customization of gauges is neat I like knowing different things altitude is cool time outside temp etc. I don’t use my phone with the sled I remember a call popping up one time on my screen and I was shocked and made sure to stop it from doing that. I suppose I just like a premium look / interface to interact with. Not a big fan of many of the all digital dashes in a lot of new vehicles. My pickup has a beautiful Cluster with nice analog gauge bezels and a smaller screen inbetween the gauges and I prefer that to the all digital version the came out with a year or two later. The Polaris standard gauge just looks cheesey to me whether it’s on a 4 wheeler a SxS or a sled
I agree, the map is the best part of the 7S. I live in Southern WI so when I am able to ride local trails, I don't need/use the 7S as much but every year I chase snow across WI, MN, UP and SD to extend the riding season and the 7S maps are great to have in unfamiliar riding locations. 7S maps has its gaps but but nothing I can't navigate past. I don't tether my phone as I have no interest in receiving texts or phone calls on the 7S while riding.
 
I personally happen to love the standard gauge. I Always opt out of the pidd or 7s. Rpm/ temp on display and my cell phone goes on airplane mode when riding. Would rather spend the extra $ on other stuff. Guess I'm stuck in 1997
I can understand that. We have the std gauge on our 570 Sportsman, and it's great for what we need. It's not difficult to read or use at all.

We have the original Ride Command on our General and that has helped us find trails and public access areas that we would've never known about - it has enhanced the fun of ATV'ing way beyond what it cost us. I paid "7s money" to put a G8 on my Catalyst because my cell phone is often completely useless where we ride, and I like knowing where I'm at when I'm low on fuel.

The QS3’s are calibrated/valved for Polaris so I’d say not the same. Build quality reared its head lately too but you can make them more robust… the new Cats have QS3R’s (R for rebound adjust) which I think makes them a step above. Wonder if all QS3 shocks use the same basic parts or if build quality changes depending on who spec’s them
That depends. For 2025, the RXC got rebound-adjustable QS3's, but the RR did not. In previous years, there were a lot more models using non-rebound QS3's. I'm sure valving is different from Polars, though.
 
Jenny as VP.... Of course, somebody found this should be a part of our 2026 line up discussion. :LOL: What the Hell.... Why not.

I really don't think she made any track choice decisions or decisions on which models did or didn't get an 850? I don't think any of us know if she knows clutching or loved triples or keeps old sled pictures in her garage. We could all just assume she doesn't have great wrench turning knowledge and probably likes shopping for dresses and buying a 100 pairs of high heals? Polaris can decide who they want to pay as their VP and I bet the criteria for the person for the job isn't based too much on wrenching abilities. I bet she has real riding passion and is more sled knowledgeable than what many might think. She was much better to look at than having greasy Steve that just rebuilt his Fusion 900 stand there and read the script for us. I'd of been more concerned if Aunt Jemima came out introducing the new sleds.

In comparison of other disappointing things... Look at the VP's past and present of our country. None of them have a clue what it is like to live as an average person that lives in this country. I bet they can't cook a meal, run a lawn mower or even go buy their own groceries. Just chosen puppets that listen and do what their bosses tell them to do. Jenny did a good job reading the scripts made up by the management of Polaris and our Countries VP's and P's read the scripts for their biggest campaign donors. The VP position is just an overpaid person that listens to others and then has the job to tell us what decisions were made below them.
Well said
 
161 - 180 of 559 Posts