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Anyone have any set up suggestion for a 2003 700 Classic. Clutching? Gearing and jetting.
 

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on my classic touring
i went with the updated weights
2 grams more
and the red green spring on the driven
420 mains (440s stock)
decent milage
hard to break 100 though
but 1 day last spring the conditions were perfect
and my 03 700 cl tour went 115 and my fusion would only go 110
that was the best they both went ... ever :div20:

i just wish i could have driven them side by side to compare the speedos

the 700 felt great, but the fusion i could feel the drag in the track
 

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Shed:
What driven do you have? I have a Polaris driven and I seem to have a problem with the spring binding. Apparently there was a reverse wound spring available for some drivens but not mine.
 

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mine is the same

no binding :banana:

i also tried the 62-46-36 from my fusion
not much difference

i don't think the red/green is reverse wound :dunno:

will check :div20:
 

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Originally posted by shed@Oct 10 2005, 08:01 PM
mine is the same

no binding :banana:

i also tried the 62-46-36 from my fusion
not much difference

i don't think the red/green is reverse wound :dunno:

will check :div20:
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Stock secondary clutches:

03 700 Touring 2 roller Team Driven w/black/red spring (not reverse wound), 58/42-.46 helix

03 700 Classic 3 roller Polaris Driven w/green/black spring, R12 helix
 

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I have the 2004 700 with the team secondary.
Main jets 420
EPI
72 gram Belly Buster weights
54-42 full progressive
EPI Orange secondary spring
EPI Yellow Primary 165-310

This pulls real hard to 95 or so then will top out around 110 on the speedo. I am in the process of installing a 1-1/4 ripsaw and I am considering a tempaflow.
 

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Have both a 600 & 700 2003 Classics. The 700 :sleep3: is a dog :help:, the 600 is fine. The 700 gets 9 miles to the gallon on a good day and may hit 85mph if the wind is right. The 600 gets 11 to 12 miles to the gallon and hits 110mph consistantly. Both machins have the Polaris clutch, not the team clutch. There is no updated spring for this clutch from Polaris. I can ride the 600 whaile my wife rides my 700 and I can be 3 or 4 sled lenghts ahead of for by 50 mph riding the 600.
The only thing that has seemed to help is loosening the track so that I have about 1 1/2" of sag.
- I tried jetting down 2 sizes on the mains (no apparent help)
- Clean the exhaust valves every 1,000 miles. Boy, do these vales look gunked up each time. Yes using VES2.
- Disasembled and cleaned the main and secondary clutches on the 700. Did not see any binding on the primary or secondary. No Help
- Swapped clutches with the 600, No help
- Other than being a gas sucking, last across the lake dog, it runs and rides really nice.

I have talked to at least 4 other 03 700 classic owners and mine is not unusual. After 3 years of experimenting at 2 different dealers ($350.00 shot) I've pretty much given up on the 700 :banghead: . I've been told I need to change to the Team clutch and buy an aftermarket kit to fix the issue (Around $500 total). Why does the 600 do just fine then? I was also told Polaris detuned the 03 700 (I'll say). I've attempeted to e-mail and call Polaris early on right after I purchased the sled and they then and now say there are no problems with the 03 700 classic.

Anyone that can offer a real solution (other than swapping out the POS motor), I'd like to hear from them. Thanks, Sobshack
 

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I would bet 80% of your fuel economy issues are with carb setting! unless your rideing a 2 up sled a 700 when its tuned goo should get 12~13 mpg on hard pack at speeds around 45~50 mph ! low end mixture plays a big roll in fuel mileage , needle setting is also a big factor! Tempa flow is possible the best cure for someone that doesnt know alot about tuneing carbs, they cost about 130.00 each and it will pay for it self in the first year! I dont see the gearing being a big issue for fuel mileage, I run 24/41 in my prox and it still gets over 12 every ride unless I am off trail or beating it up on the lake. 430 main jet are good to about -10F at around 1000' (could be colder but thats about as cold as I have run in) many guys say 420's are fine but I cant say yes or no.....
 

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Originally posted by Sobshack@Oct 27 2005, 12:16 AM
Have both a 600 & 700 2003 Classics. The 700  :sleep3: is a dog :help:, the 600 is fine. The 700 gets 9 miles to the gallon on a good day and may hit 85mph if the wind is right. The 600 gets 11 to 12 miles to the gallon and hits 110mph consistantly. Both machins have the Polaris clutch, not the team clutch. There is no updated spring for this clutch from Polaris. I can ride the 600 whaile my wife rides my 700 and I can be 3 or 4 sled lenghts ahead of for by 50 mph riding the 600.
The only thing that has seemed to help is loosening the track so that I have about 1 1/2" of sag.
- I tried jetting down 2 sizes on the mains (no apparent help)
- Clean the exhaust valves every 1,000 miles. Boy, do these vales look gunked up each time. Yes using VES2.
- Disasembled and cleaned the main and secondary clutches on the 700. Did not see any binding on the primary or secondary. No Help
- Swapped clutches with the 600, No help
- Other than being a gas sucking, last across the lake dog, it runs and  rides really nice.

I have talked to at least 4 other 03 700 classic owners and mine is not unusual. After 3 years of experimenting at 2 different dealers ($350.00 shot) I've pretty much given up on the 700 :banghead: . I've been told I need to change to the Team clutch and buy an aftermarket kit to fix the issue (Around $500 total). Why does the 600 do just fine then? I was also told Polaris detuned the 03 700 (I'll say). I've attempeted to e-mail and call Polaris early on right after I purchased the sled and they then and now say there are no problems with the 03 700 classic.

Anyone that can offer a real solution (other than swapping out the POS motor), I'd like to hear from them. Thanks, Sobshack
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Sobshack What aftermarket kit?
 

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MY DAD HAS A 03 CLASSIC 700 AND IT WOULD ONLY DO ABOUT 100 ON A GOOD DAY WHEN HE GOT IT. ABOUT 2 HOURS IN THE GARAGE AND IT NOW FLATOUT RIPS, A BUDDY OF MINE DID THE FOLLOWING:

420 MAINS
ALMOND/RED PRIMARY
64G WEIGHTS
25/41
STOCK SECONDARY

115 ON SPEEDO ON GOOD CONDITIONS
 

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Wife has had the same sled since new. Great sled, 7000 trouble free miles. All I did was put a heavier set of weights in (64's) and Tempa flow. She does over a 100 almost anytime, I have had it at 110 when she lets me drive it. It gets anywhere from 11-13 mpg. Sled has been flawless.
 

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There are a couple issues I see with the 700 classic as you have. Geared to tall, go to 25/42. Change the weights to 10-64, and the primary spring to a dk. blue/white. Check that the fuel and air screws are set to stock specs according to your owners manual supplement. 420 main jets. RN57YCC plugs. This will improve it. The secondary clutch does not load the engine hard enoug to use the power, so you have to compensate with the primary. The tall gearing will not allow the roller secondary to keep upshifting, the rollers are much more sensitive to load, which is too high with the 25/40 gears.
 

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Wow,looks like they really screwed up the 700 in 03 eh?
My 02 700 classic was excellent on fuel (consistently the same or slightly better than my wifes 98 indy 500) and would do well over 110 mph on the dream-o meter.
I was really happy with it...shoulda kept it I guess!
 
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