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Old 03-17-2018, 05:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 2017 Axys Rush 600? clutch upgrades?

Freind asked for help. I know NSP has a kit, and Gabes. Anyone have any "this works better" than stock setups for trails? Weights, springs, helix? 22/41 1.86 gears seems plenty low enough. Looks like secondary spring is pretty high rates and helix could be improved on.
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Why guess, Northstar has put in the time to get it right. Call him up, let him fix you up, Never be afraid of getting the best, you will always be happy with it.
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We really think Ricks/nsp kit is stop on in are 800 and 600 assaults. His kit is just springs and helix for the 600 and it works and improves MPH. You figure if you try 2 springs in both clutches and theres a $100. , then try a diff helix and your over $200.. If I remember right ricks kit for the 600 was $225. or $275. and your there.
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Why guess, Northstar has put in the time to get it right. Call him up, let him fix you up, Never be afraid of getting the best, you will always be happy with it.
Not looking to guess,if it was my sled I would, asking if anyone has a "this works" setup, also my friend has a low budget, I have several helixs , weights and springs I can throw at the sled to save her some money. I just don't want to spend time testing next winter. The oem secondary spring is a 160/240. I am sure a 120 to 140/200 to 220 would help there.
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Most stick with the stock 10-64s. Tried to help a friend the same way.
120-310 prim.spr. and 140-220 secondary was an improvement for sure.
He went back to stock, apparently he thinks it's faster turning his 16 pro-s at 8350-8400. Another friend left his 15 pro-s sb clutching stock,but is running a helix from an 15 or 16 axys 800.It seems to be alright , but I think his still runs around 8300. Neither like their sled setup like mine. I tend to run on the aggressive side and make the engine work.
Can't really go by my 15 now, been running heavy hitter weights and switch from stock to a full progressive helix(depending on snow conditions) with the springs above.

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It depends what your freind is after, if on a budget i would try softer springs and or maybe a slightly more aggressive helix. I tried the gabes kit everyone raves about(in my rush) and was not impressed with anything about it. I have never owned a kit i have been impressed with, most are “secret” parts that dont work as well as advertised am dwhen you want to make a change you dont know what you have.
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From my experience with 4 different Pro-s 600s. 15-17, short and sb. Splitting hairs, they all run slightly different. Then you have driver weight ,traction ect..ect... Your cheapest/simplest bet is sh$t can the stock secondary spring for either a 140-220 or 140-200.Then maybe add a lighter finish on the primary spring.
I like the 120-310,but some people like the higher engagement/revy feel of something that starts at 140. Other option if you have it, a 46-42 full or stock type xx-44 .46/.36 may work alright with the stock springs and 10-64s. Everyone expects & likes something different, don't think you're going to get "this works better" setup. Too many variables. Sorry, my $.02. Good luck.

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From my experience with 4 different Pro-s 600s. 15-17, short and sb. Splitting hairs, they all run slightly different. Then you have driver weight ,traction ect..ect... Your cheapest/simplest bet is sh$t can the stock secondary spring for either a 140-220 or 140-200.Then maybe add a lighter finish on the primary spring.
I like the 120-310,but some people like the higher engagement/revy feel of something that starts at 140. Other option if you have it, a 46-42 full or stock type xx-44 .46/.36 may work alright with the stock springs and 10-64s. Everyone expects & likes something different, don't think you're going to get "this works better" setup. Too many variables. Sorry, my $.02. Good luck.
What rpm do the axys 600s run best at in your experience? There was talk on another board that they like to be run a little higher than the rush/indy.
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What rpm do the axys 600s run best at in your experience? There was talk on another board that they like to be run a little higher than the rush/indy.
I try to get it 8050-8150 and climb 8200-8300 on top. Depends on drag racing or just all around trail.
I'm pretty sure axys sleds have a different primary clutch cut/degree on the sheaves which makes them shift faster also.
The reason why guys can run more aggressive clutching on an indy(that and the axys driveline is less efficient). Apples for apples.

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From my experience with 4 different Pro-s 600s. 15-17, short and sb. Splitting hairs, they all run slightly different. Then you have driver weight ,traction ect..ect... Your cheapest/simplest bet is sh$t can the stock secondary spring for either a 140-220 or 140-200.Then maybe add a lighter finish on the primary spring.
I like the 120-310,but some people like the higher engagement/revy feel of something that starts at 140. Other option if you have it, a 46-42 full or stock type xx-44 .46/.36 may work alright with the stock springs and 10-64s. Everyone expects & likes something different, don't think you're going to get "this works better" setup. Too many variables. Sorry, my $.02. Good luck.
Yeah I know the variables. I guess I should have said I want opinions? Just picking brains. The gal is a lightweight, so she doesn't load the motor much herself. I am not even sure if her hubby studded the track or not. The blu/wht and a 140/200 were my first thoughts. And I have them. Same for a 46-42 fp since I put a P2 on my Indy last year. I'll balance the 64's, which seem the best weight on a Indy 6 or Axys 6 and probably reshim the clutch.
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