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Old 04-18-2018, 08:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The 1100 zuk was introduced in what 2007? The Nytro motor in 2008? I'd get your point if it was a newly introduced motor but the Viper/7000 motor is pretty much as old as the 1100 so I don't knock it for not outperforming it by a lot. The wifey has been riding the 7000 for 5 seasons and has loved it with no plans to get rid of it. I've put on a lot of the miles and think it's great myself. If we wanted a 2-smoke for her, we would have gone that route. It's a great 125 hp class trail cruiser and I'm not a big Yammy guy...
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The 1100 zuk was introduced in what 2007? The Nytro motor in 2008? I'd get your point if it was a newly introduced motor but the Viper/7000 motor is pretty much as old as the 1100 so I don't knock it for not outperforming it by a lot. The wifey has been riding the 7000 for 5 seasons and has loved it with no plans to get rid of it. I've put on a lot of the miles and think it's great myself. If we wanted a 2-smoke for her, we would have gone that route. It's a great 125 hp class trail cruiser and I'm not a big Yammy guy...
you could buy a new 2017 zr 5000 Cat for retail price of $9,199 bucks, or a 2017 zr 7000 for $14,049. Why on earth would any normal human throw away $4,850 bucks to win a drag race by a half a sled length?
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Old 04-18-2018, 08:52 PM   #13 (permalink)
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@baydog ... this is a brand specific forum so I would recommend taking it easy with your clearly blind, clearly loyal, Cat bias.
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Old 04-18-2018, 08:55 PM   #14 (permalink)
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@baydog ... this is a brand specific forum so I would recommend taking it easy with your clearly blind, clearly loyal, Cat bias.
Gotcha, sorry, but the Viper is a Cat chassis and "sled" by definition.......By the way, I am busting Cat and Yamaha for this........I'll go away now.
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Old 04-18-2018, 08:58 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Gotcha, sorry, but the Viper is a Cat chassis and "sled" by definition.......By the way, I am busting Cat and Yamaha for this........I'll go away now.
I ain't trying to be a dick here, sorry. I just know that if the shoe were on the other foot & Yami guys were chiming in on a Cat thread of the same content people would come unglued. So thanks man, I appreciate your understanding
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They pick one from every manufacture so it was participation award basically. I figured after a couple years with this deal with cat that they would use that to hold them over while they were developing there next generation of all yamaha apex, viper ect which would be awesome and get them back in the game. But for 19 the whole line up is totally restickered and painted arctic cats built at arctic cat. (yes with a few differences i know). There going the way of the dodo going this direction. Some even diehard Yamaha loyalist even switching to Polaris's I know 2 long time yamaha guys snowchecked Polaris this year. With how trimmed there line up is this year kind of will be surprised if they are around in another couple years. A larger local dealer that sells many brands they snow checked 50 polaris and 1 Yamaha this year...
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Old 04-18-2018, 09:34 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Gotcha, sorry, but the Viper is a Cat chassis and "sled" by definition.......By the way, I am busting Cat and Yamaha for this........I'll go away now.
I'm pretty sure the readers in this forum are very aware the Viper is a Cat chassis with Yam's motor. I love it when the nay sayer's feel they have to always point that out but with that being said there should be no denying the 1049 motor is an all around good match up in the Pro Cross chassis.
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Old 04-18-2018, 09:38 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I loved my 14 XTX. 1049cc is good for 50k miles easy, is faster then then 600 it replaced and had great low end grunt. Handled the trail ok for a 141 uncoupled, but the 137 would be ideal.
Overall a comfy, reliable trail cruiser thats not much heavier then a comparable model, I can see why people like them.
If i got one again it would be a 137 with the MPI turbo kit.
Will it beat out all those others for most nimble, best handling machine? No. But it will still handle damn good and with that Genesis, last a damn long time.

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Old 04-18-2018, 11:01 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I'm pretty sure the readers in this forum are very aware the Viper is a Cat chassis with Yam's motor. I love it when the nay sayer's feel they have to always point that out but with that being said there should be no denying the 1049 motor is an all around good match up in the Pro Cross chassis.
just imagine the 4 banger i would be on it like a fly on s--t ! waiting... must be hard to do never seen one on u-tube yet
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Old 04-18-2018, 11:22 PM   #20 (permalink)
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It's not the Yamaha sled I think is over rated, just the engine.........It's a Cat sled with an over designed four stroke engine that only slightly outperforms the decades old Suzuki four stroke and can't compare to the newer 2 stroke in maintenance and fuel economy.
Only Yamaha sheep think this thing is great. Run it side by side with the others I mention, and dollar for dollar and you'll find the 1049 engine is wanting at best.
ya wont see me give up my c-tec 2 engine for the 1049 even if it is a yamaha engine but my friends who have em love em
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