2015 XF8000 wrench light came on. - HCS Snowmobile Forums

ProCross (2012 - ) F+ XF 800/1100/ This is a brand-specific forum. Posts on this forum are assumed to be questions aimed at similar model owners, and are not looking for comments of a sarcastic or "bashing" nature. Please be aware that if you violate this policy you are in danger of losing your posting privileges on this website.The calling out or posting of another members personal information IE phone number or address is prohibited.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 02-14-2017, 11:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
Super Advanced Member
 
Stangfire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,970
Current Sled(s): 15 XF8000 CC SP, 03 F5
Previous Sled(s): 09 CFR8, 06 F7, 02 Edge 600, 94 XLT
Location: East Selkirk, Manitoba, Canada
Favorite Riding Area: Back Country
Age: 41
Riding Since: 2000
Default 2015 XF8000 wrench light came on.

I have a 2015 XF8000 with riot kit. Was out riding yesterday di 50 miles and sledran great. I stopped and got a full tankof 89 regular gas.Shortly after thatthe wrench light came on.I thought thatmeanít it was in limp mode from bad gas.So I kept riding and took it easy as the sled would not rev upproperly.I stopped and put some different89 regular gas in I had with me.Afterrestarting the wrench light would go out but then come back on after a littlewhile.I did this a couple timesstopping and putting more gas in. The engine temp was not hot115-125F most of the time (I run scratchersif need be).However, the outside airtemperature was warm +3C.I have neverhad a problem riding in warm temps.Ialways keep the coolant temp low and very anal about watching that.

So I made it to agas station and toped up the tank with 91 gas. Went for another 20 miles and the wrench icon did not come on.

So the entire time Ikept thinking the sled was in limp mode from bad gas however, I read today thatlimp mode with display OCTN on the the dash.

So why did I have awrench icon on? What was causing that?

Iím not too familiarwith LIMP mode as itís never come on for me but it felt like thatís what itwas.
Stangfire is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 02-14-2017, 11:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
Super Advanced Member
 
SnoCrazy89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,059
Current Sled(s): Arctic Cat XF 800 Sno Pro 2012
Previous Sled(s): Arctic Cat 2002 Zl 600cc
Location: Caledon Ontario
Favorite Riding Area: Muskoka Ontario
18-19 Mileage 3500km
Age: 26
Riding Since: 12
Default

This sled requires 91... I would run anything lower than that. Especially with the Riot Kit! Take a look at the top of your gas cap.
__________________
When in doubt, throttle out!

2002 ZL 600 Arctic Cat (Dead)
2003 F7 Arctic Cat
2012 XF 800 Sno Pro Arctic Cat (sold)
2018 XF8000 CC Limited (Ordered!!!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
)

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by SnoCrazy89; 02-14-2017 at 11:32 AM.
SnoCrazy89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2017, 11:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
Advanced Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 33
Default

You definitely want to read through your manual. You should be putting in 91 non Oxy in there. The manual states you can use 87 in a pinch, and it will throw an OCTN code letting you know that it's going to try and accommodate the gas. If you continually use 87, you'll probably end up damaging the pistons.

Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk
qoreycube is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2017, 11:37 AM   #4 (permalink)
Super Advanced Member
 
Stangfire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,970
Current Sled(s): 15 XF8000 CC SP, 03 F5
Previous Sled(s): 09 CFR8, 06 F7, 02 Edge 600, 94 XLT
Location: East Selkirk, Manitoba, Canada
Favorite Riding Area: Back Country
Age: 41
Riding Since: 2000
Default

I always run 91. Sometimes I can only get 89.

I was just confused on why the wrench light came on and notOCTN.
Stangfire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2017, 11:42 AM   #5 (permalink)
Super Advanced Member
 
catdog800's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,416
Current Sled(s): 19 ZR 8000 LTD
Previous Sled(s): 15 ZR 4000 72 PUMA
Location: Manitoba
Favorite Riding Area: Whiteshell
18-19 Mileage 2200
17-18 Mileage: 2000
16-17 Mileage: 1000
15-16 Mileage: 1200
Age: 59
Riding Since: 1972
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoCrazy89 View Post
This sled requires 91... I would run anything lower than that. Especially with the Riot Kit! Take a look at the top of your gas cap.
Did you have a RIOT kit on your sled? One of the features of the RIOT kit LTS head is that you can run regular unleaded fuel with no penalty...Stangfire can read. This is off the D&D website....

D&D LTS head mod is a highly dynoed and field tested mod that is a must for all Arctic Cat 800 HO engines. 2011 to current 800 engines from the factory have what we feel is too much compression and are very octane sensitive. LTS head mod is less compression than stock but with a revised dome configuration it gains 3hp as verified at Dynotech. LTS head mod not only gains HP it makes the 800 less octane sensitive for less chance of detonation so factory ECU does not adjust fuel and timing resulting in a no power limp mode. With todays fuel quality and trail side availability of only 87 or 89 octane in many places, bolt on the LTS head mod and have full power all the time!! The wrench normally comes along with a code Stangfire.

Last edited by catdog800; 02-14-2017 at 11:55 AM.
catdog800 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2017, 11:53 AM   #6 (permalink)
Super Advanced Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 794
Current Sled(s): 2012 XF 800 sp
Previous Sled(s): All Cats
Location: Paxton, MA
Favorite Riding Area: ME, VT, QC
18-19 Mileage 1,500
16-17 Mileage: 1,000
15-16 Mileage: 500
Age: 34
Riding Since: 1992
Default

When I've had the wrench light come on it has only been in combination with something else. It'd be either OCT & the wrench or ECU 1, ECU 17 & wrench, something like that. For me it was either questionable gas or my temp sensor in the pipe going bad which I replaced with the cheap GM part and it's been fine since.
mattledzf7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2017, 11:53 AM   #7 (permalink)
Super Advanced Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 19,248
Current Sled(s): "Agri-vator"
Default

When Octane comes on, it shows the wrench too.
With just the wrench, but no Octane code, I'm not sure what you had going on. I would have been toying with it as I was ridding. Shut it off, no codes, ride easy, then see if it comes on when you pin it sort of test. Shift into reverse and back out a few times, not that it should matter.
stronger800 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2017, 12:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
Super Advanced Member
 
Stangfire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,970
Current Sled(s): 15 XF8000 CC SP, 03 F5
Previous Sled(s): 09 CFR8, 06 F7, 02 Edge 600, 94 XLT
Location: East Selkirk, Manitoba, Canada
Favorite Riding Area: Back Country
Age: 41
Riding Since: 2000
Default

Yeah, I know with the Riot kit you should be able to run 87gas. Even though I still use 91 90% ofthe time.

All I noticed was the wrench light. I didn’t notice any other codes. (I have thedeluxe guage reflash) And when the wrench light was on the sled was basicallyrunning in a limp mode.Or at least feltthat way to me.It would start cuttingand stuttering if I tried to rev it to high.

I’ll have to try it out again and keep an eye on things.It didn’t do itafter I put 91 gas in but I only went 10 miles after that.
Stangfire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2017, 12:18 PM   #9 (permalink)
Advanced Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 54
Location: spain
Default

Use 91. Bad 87 you got that day
__________________
renagade bob
robert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2017, 12:21 PM   #10 (permalink)
Super Advanced Member
 
izzni's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,156
Current Sled(s): 2012 M1100T LE
Previous Sled(s): 2002 800 RMK, 2005 600 RMK, 600 Classic, Indy 440
Location: Vadnais Heights
Favorite Riding Area: Snowy Mountain Range
Age: 35
Riding Since: 14
Default

The wrench symbol always will come on when the SES line goes low (or high, can't remember), and it will stay on until the SES line hasn't been low for a few seconds.

The ECU sends pulses on the SES line indicating with ECU code to display. The pulses are counted (two digits) by the gauge and displayed as an ECU code. ECU code 27 is handled different, since ECU 27 causes the gauge to show OCTN.

You either have a loose connection with regards to the SES line that is causing the gauge to not count the pulses right, or a messed up ECU.

If you have a reflashed gauge you may have it setup to hide ECU codes.
izzni is online now   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:41 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.