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Old 12-15-2015, 07:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Got the SSI overdrive kit yesterday and began the process of installing it. As I start on the install I decided to do the primary first because I haven't done a clutch kit in many years, so lets just say I'm use to the old Cats. One thing I noticed different is the weights don't float on the pins anymore, they are locked in place with a set screw so now the pin assembly now floats through the clutches travel, not just the weight. Not something new for the rest of you but for me it is. Not a big deal, Move along! So, when I get the clutch cover off and spring out, the pins ( all 3) don't " Float " very well, and seem to be " tight " in their locations, all 3! With the clutch on the bench if I lift up any of the weights they won't fall down on their own. Is this right? Shouldn't they fall down real easy?
Anyway, I begin to take them out, heat up the set screws to free up the loctite, remove the set screws but I had to use a wrench to spin the pin ( Cam bolt ) several revolutions like it was stuck in the weight even though the set screw was out.
Getting ready to install the new SSI weights I noticed 1 of the set screws won't go all the way in like the other 2 so I had to use the correct size tap and gently chase the hole a little, Not a lot but enough to get it to lock in place otherwise it wouldn't lock on the pin. I realize this when I was installing the last weight and broke the allen key off in the set screw and the weight wasn't tight on the pin. Got it out with a magnet, took it out again and saw the issue. Now it's in place locked on real good. If I never mentioned it, I used locktite on all 3 set screws.
Before reassembly of the spring and cover the same issue is there with the pins, they won't fall freely, so do I have an issue and should the pins/nuts be replaced or is this just normal on the new AC clutches?
Before I move on to the secondary, any advise to share. Am I doing something wrong?

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Old 12-15-2015, 07:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Normal. Keep on trucking. Some people loosen the pin nut so they are loose but I don't think that does much.


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OK, thanks! So should they all be uniform, meaning all the same drag, tension?
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u cant really over tighten the sholder of the bolt will not allow . just snug up and done. think about the pressure on those weights . free flopping is irrelevant
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Gotcha, thanks! I'll move onto the secondaray.
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X2.
Secondary....that will be even More fun.
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The pins that hold the arms typically have a little divot already drilled into them that the set screw threads down into. You might have missed it on the last one and that's why the set screw didn't screw down as far as the other two did.

My stock arms flopped easily and my new arms from my SSI clutch kit for my turbo don't flop and stay where I put them (up, down, in the middle, etc) too. I haven't run the sled yet with the clutch kit installed as I'm having problems with my secondary (apparently I was twisting the helix cap in the wrong direction). I'll figure that out this weekend I hope.
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The pins that hold the arms typically have a little divot already drilled into them that the set screw threads down into. You might have missed it on the last one and that's why the set screw didn't screw down as far as the other two did.

My stock arms flopped easily and my new arms from my SSI clutch kit for my turbo don't flop and stay where I put them (up, down, in the middle, etc) too. I haven't run the sled yet with the clutch kit installed as I'm having problems with my secondary (apparently I was twisting the helix cap in the wrong direction). I'll figure that out this weekend I hope.
That don't sound like fun at all. Mine before setup sat in the #1 hole and had to move it to #4 per the instructions! Managed to get it done by hand. I have it together now but it's not really that hard, the hardest part was taking out the helix bolts loctited in. Lots of heat and they came loose. Had to put in another small shim to get the belt deflection correct, now the belt sits just slightly out of the secondary. When I was putting the end cap and bolt back in the secondary I thought there was/should be a spacer inside between the cap and the jackshaft so I looked all around the garage but couldn't find anything. Then I came inside and looked at the parts fiche to see there isn't anything there. My memory is terrible!
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Nah....you just thinking '90s technology.
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I went through the same thing when installing a BMS clutch kit. I ended up installing the nut on the weight pin so that the weights would move easily, and used Loctite to make sure the nuts stayed in place.

I had more problem with the secondary. Got it all installed, and it was just not working properly. After looking at it, I had installed the Helix 90 degrees off so that the 2 ramps for the 2 rollers were not lined up. LOL, Stupid mistake, but luckily I caught it before I did any damage.
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