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Old 01-15-2020, 10:00 AM   #191 (permalink)
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Snowtrax made a point yesterday, that Ski-Doo invested some serious R&D money and tooling into this new 2-stroke turbo to have it limited to just the Summit 850 Turbo, which is probably 1% of their total sled sales. And I agree with them.

Expect to see a flat land / low elevation boosted 2-stroke from Ski-Doo for the 2021 model year. Dare I say a 2021 Mach Zed 850 Turbo with a 137" track?
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Good job skidoo!!
They will show the nonbelievers it can be done from the factory.

Cat guys your brand is is getting so far behind... Cat is struggling to build a reliable emissions 800 while doo is putting out turbo 850ís. Polaris will no doubt have a turbo 2stroke as well in the near future. Last year factory Polaris dominated hill races with their own turbo 850 so it wonít be long.
Another nail in Cat's coffin.

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that red ling shouldn't dip down as it goes to the right, seems like there must have been an issue with the turbo design or selection...
Look at that again my understanding is that hp will start to drop when it goes over 8000'.
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DTR just published the dyno test results for the 850 Skidoo and the 800 Cat.

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I think a turbo with no increase in hp at sea level is the least risky but most meaningful for mountain riders. If they already have an engine thatís reliable at 165hp, then hold it there and no engine work needed. Just work on turbo and ecu mapping.

Great idea, and also safe.

If this were adapted to flatland riders, the only way it becomes worthwhile is if hp increases dramatically. Thatís possible, but now talking about engine redesign. Maybe their plan is to get the turbo right and then come back around to engine design.

According to a Ski Doo dealer I talked to recently, their turbo 4s not much heavier than their 2s. Why did they need a turbo 2s in that case?

Would fuel economy improve with a turbo 2s?
Thought I read 40lbs difference.
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that red ling shouldn't dip down as it goes to the right, seems like there must have been an issue with the turbo design or selection...
You are retarded.

Did you watch/ read anything about this new sled?
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What Doo is doing is essentially the same thing (same performance at elevation) that Cat did with the 1100 turbo.
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Another nail in Cat's coffin.

In this world of high-tech $15,000 to $18,000 sleds, Cat's only chance at a comeback is to be the value leader.

Off-Topic;

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What Doo is doing is essentially the same thing (same performance at elevation) that Cat did with the 1100 turbo.
But the 1100 N/A went from 125hp (range) to 188hp after the turbo. I think this is the point that some are bringing to the table here.
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Turbo mode explained.

that red ling shouldn't dip down as it goes to the right, seems like there must have been an issue with the turbo design or selection...
Those dam Team Turbo's. Just like their clutches........
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