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Old 12-27-2019, 03:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ol Crazy Rich is back at it again... maybe its an east coast thing ?



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Old 12-27-2019, 09:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I’d love to hear a rebuttal from dtr, [email protected], and bikeman. Would make for a interesting exchange. Honestly if I was rich I would let my work speak for itself before I started the internet war. I have no horse in this race so it doesn’t matter to me in the end. I have no loyalties to any of them. Pretty bold.
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Old 12-27-2019, 10:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I have said it over and over. I agree with him on lugging the engine down at 6000 through. What's the point? Sleds don't run down there at wide open ever. I could see calculating the load they see at part throttle mid range, to tune cruise. But otherwise, the engine zings right to basically peak and stays there. Lugging down the engine, then clipping it at the peak, is opposite of what happens when we ride them.

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Old 12-27-2019, 10:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Correct. There is a difference between tuning for driveability and tuning for only power at wot. That’s why I’ve never really cared what a sled makes at 5000 or 5500 rpm for most it’s not relevent unless you care how much power you have for trailer loading
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Old 12-27-2019, 11:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Sounds like a lot of nonsense rambling by rich..
Pretty nice graph he had there


Disappointing that he's still that upset about sucking out at the 850 pipe shootout.


I'm not exactly a big D&D supporter/cheerleader but AFIK he screwed them pretty hard, back when he was making pipes for them


As far as starting the pull at 6k rpm I'd say the fact that its done by everyone else in the industry, probably means there is a couple of really good reasons for it.

At the very least why wouldn't you want to know the tq in that range??



You can build pipes, and tune a sled to make huge peak numbers, but be a slow impossible to clutch pos in the real world because the "powerband" is so narrow.
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Sounds like a lot of nonsense rambling by rich..
Pretty nice graph he had there


Disappointing that he's still that upset about sucking out at the 850 pipe shootout.


I'm not exactly a big D&D supporter/cheerleader but AFIK he screwed them pretty hard, back when he was making pipes for them


As far as starting the pull at 6k rpm I'd say the fact that its done by everyone else in the industry, probably means there is a couple of really good reasons for it.

At the very least why wouldn't you want to know the tq in that range??



You can build pipes, and tune a sled to make huge peak numbers, but be a slow impossible to clutch pos in the real world because the "powerband" is so narrow.
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Old 12-28-2019, 02:53 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Coo coo for the coco puffs. His tech also consists of scientific things like “it feels stockish” and when a competitor product is on a sled he says it doesn’t make any power so run it in stock even when it’s not even close to stock. Very interesting. And there are Polaris sleds that win or top 3 quite often in some classes in those types of racing. Idk. I do t care what sled somebody rides there is no such thing as handicaps in heads up racing. I do have to say it’s nice that at least he does something for racing around here that’s a plus. But I can’t deal with the disorganization, fluid rules, and lack of tech . But for those that don’t mind good for them all the power to em.

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wow, is he ?

how can we get him to start posting on HCS?
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wow, is he ?

how can we get him to start posting on HCS?

His race series gives poo 800s a head start, and they still don't make the finals..
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