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Old 12-07-2019, 11:47 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I heard Adam Schiff bought a new Riot.
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I bet his foul's no plug's wfo .
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Found the article - does anyone know what codes P1600 and 1603 would be.

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2020 riot x, 350 klms on it. Dead 1 cylinder. Code p1600 and 1603, changed plugs first thing, not a change. Compression feels good, spark on both plugs against the head, but 1 is soaked. New plugs or not. Anyone have any issues with their ctec 2 like this?
Edit. Yes folks I will be taking it to the dealer but just ruling out if it's a simple fix as something unplugged easily. I'm currently on a sled trip with friends out of province and only made 20 klms today before it died.
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Old 12-08-2019, 12:55 AM   #14 (permalink)
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If a fuel injected sled is flooded and plugs are changed it is possible to refoul the new plugs with the excess fuel in the cyl and base. Generally one should disable the fuel pump hold ide open pull until your arms fall off. Let it air out a minute reinstall new plugs enable fuel pump and fire it up. Ps. While clearing the engine have kill switch off. So you don’t ignite the fuel blown out of the engine and burn your whole shit to the ground.
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Yeah, no troubleshooting, seems weird. Yet, they knew they were down a cylinder. I think there must be more to the story.

Sounds like fowled plugs, based on similarities to the problems new owners had with the Polaris 850. At least, I sincerely hope that's all.

Do these new EFI engines need extra oil mixed to the gas, like the carbed engines did for breakin, or does the ECU automagically handle that with the oil system?

No extra oil in the fuel..

Cats break in runs the oil pump about as fast and hard as they can for the first 12 or 15 min of run time, and then steps it down from there, takes 6.5 hours above idle before oiling drops to "fully broken in"


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It is not uncommon to foul plugs on sleds during break in modes. ESP. If they were started and shut off at dealer then loading in off trailers in garage etc. poo had this happen on 850 intro to some sleds. Flooding. Maps have been revamped since . Hopefully itís just that simple. And I said it with the Polaris and Iíll give same benefit to the cats and thatís the net is full of problems and double triple quadruple reporting. I doubt the sky is falling. But just in case carry bear spray.
l've seen a few guys complaining about oil on the garage floor, after running the sled for a few min and shutting it off, several times in a row. The sleds are so rich that the oil litterly drips out of the air box, and exhaust, if you don't run the sled long enough to burn it all off.


I warn guys of all this when they pick up a new sled. We haven't had any guys foul plugs on a ctec2 since the 6 came out.

Guess I'll see what Monday brings tho
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my thought on the 850 patriot. the whole fucking motor is junk. 18 miles on mine and the coating is stuck in the rings, it's in the crank, etc. pistons are complete garbage. Kelsey had one of these apart and told me the motor was junk, now Indy Dan says it is.
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Thought he said he swapped the plugs in that post with no luck and only 1 of the plugs was wet. Hopefully something simple. Hate to see anyone with a new sled have problems, regardless of brand.
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We haven't had any guys foul plugs on a ctec2 since the 6 came out.
I have a couple of questions that are not meant to stir the shit. How do you know if owners didn't foul any plugs? Do you survey all ctec 2 owners at the end of each season?

I ride with a bunch of people, and not one of them has ever contacted a dealer to say, "I didn't foul a plug this season." On the rare occasion that someone in my group has fouled a plug, that person has not contacted the dealer either.
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4000 + Miles Same Plugs Look Like New Still. I Don't Carry Spares ! 2016 600
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I have a couple of questions that are not meant to stir the shit. How do you know if owners didn't foul any plugs? Do you survey all ctec 2 owners at the end of each season?

I ride with a bunch of people, and not one of them has ever contacted a dealer to say, "I didn't foul a plug this season." On the rare occasion that someone in my group has fouled a plug, that person has not contacted the dealer either.

FWIW under federal emissions law spark plugs are covered under warranty for 3 years. So if you know one of the guys who have gone through 40+ plugs in their poo 840, let them know.



Should have worded it not a single complaint of fouled plug then... But if a new sled fouled plugs most customers would call and bitch.


but the cats have been really good on plugs for a very long time.. Spark plug sales are maybe 1/5 of what they where before everything went efi



The only "common problem" I see is injectors varnished up after sitting all summer.. Sled wont start or only runs on 1 cylinder, fix is to tap on the injector(s)
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4000 + Miles Same Plugs Look Like New Still. I Don't Carry Spares ! 2016 600
Same here, my '16 had the original plugs in it when I traded it in with just over 4000 miles.

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