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Old 11-29-2019, 12:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Are 600cc sleds the new 440? Doesn't seem to be much love for 600 class sleds lately. 800/850 is the focus, which is great for Mtn guys and lake/rail bed racers. For general trail riding, isn't a fast revving 600 enough? Cat is only offering three sleds in their entire line up for 2021 with a 600? Doo 600R by all accounts is great, but how many buy them over the 850? Poo guys are waiting for a 600 Patriot, asking for a 650 but would they actually buy them with the 840/800 available?
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Why bother with a 600 when it's a BLAST to ride a 400cc sled?
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I had a 600R renegade last half of last year , great sled but missed the torque / pull of a 4 stroke so back on a 1200 , hope they come with a 1200 replacement at some point

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People fall into a trap of thinking they need the big hp. I've gone through it. For me, the (relatively) smaller high performance motors are just as fast and alot more fun to ride.
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Old 11-29-2019, 01:23 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I've alway had a 600, was always fun demoralizing 800 sled owners in the twisties...just gotta expect some payback on open parries and lakes.
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I see 600's all over the place when I ride in the Mountains.
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Why bother with a 600 when it's a BLAST to ride a 400cc sled?
crnr2crnr just knew this comment was coming

funny though, the 400cc single slug supposedly puts out nearly as much power as the 793cc Hirth Honker Triple.
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People fall into a trap of thinking they need the big hp. I've gone through it. For me, the (relatively) smaller high performance motors are just as fast and alot more fun to ride.
can see the argument that you don't have to use all of the power (throttle modulation right?), that when running fast they're more efficient and their weight isn't far off the 6's. just have to wonder if trail guys would ever come back to the 600 class if they were all in the 130/135 range. pretty sure we know the answer already. for the type of riding I enjoy when considering a new sled, a 600 seems perfectly fine.
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I've had 800's, dropped down to a 600 and went back up to a 800
Am I faster on the 800?
No, my comfort range is the same wheather on a 600 or 800 I just like the arm streaching pull the handlebars out of your finger tips torque the bigger CC sleds have.
To me it's all about the fun factor, that is why we ride.


One thing I have often thought from a manufacturing stand point why build a 600 and not a detuned 800/850? Much like the outboards for boats. Often times a same size motor will come in 2 to 3 different HP ranges
Put the HP number on the side of the sled and not the CC's
A detuned 800/850 in the 125-130 hp range would have way more torque than a 600. Would be easier to clutch. Would not need premium fuels and it would be cheaper to build which trickles down to the buyer
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I've had 800's, dropped down to a 600 and went back up to a 800
Am I faster on the 800?
No, my comfort range is the same wheather on a 600 or 800 I just like the arm streaching pull the handlebars out of your finger tips torque the bigger CC sleds have.
To me it's all about the fun factor, that is why we ride.


One thing I have often thought from a manufacturing stand point why build a 600 and not a detuned 800/850? Much like the outboards for boats. Often times a same size motor will come in 2 to 3 different HP ranges
Put the HP number on the side of the sled and not the CC's
A detuned 800/850 in the 125-130 hp range would have way more torque than a 600. Would be easier to clutch. Would not need premium fuels and it would be cheaper to build which trickles down to the buyer


Iíve always said if you take two different size engines making the same power the smaller one is going to be peppier if not quicker. Itís running more at its potential. Ignition timing and fuel is going to be more in line with the engines potential.


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