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Old 10-09-2019, 05:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I haven't had a sled since the later 70's and looking to get a used one that isnt too costly. Any suggestions on how old I can go without tons of issues? Mostly trail riding. Was looking at a 2009 Arctic Cat Crossfire 1000r. Engines seems very good 140 lbs compression. New sliders but some of the boggies look worn and a rear shocks busing is bad. He is will sell it for 3,200. Any suggestions appreciated.


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Old 10-09-2019, 06:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Crossfire 1000 is a nice fast machine, can be very fast with a few upgrades.
price is good compared to 2 at the dealer's online right now for $4,200 +
if the motor is good, the rest is just regular wear and tear on a 10 year old machine.
Always wanted one of those sleds …

How many miles ??
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Old 10-09-2019, 06:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Where you located? A friend of mine has a mint 2003 Pro X 700 for sale. Low miles.
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Old 10-09-2019, 06:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I haven't had a sled since the later 70's and looking to get a used one that isnt too costly. Any suggestions on how old I can go without tons of issues? Mostly trail riding. Was looking at a 2009 Arctic Cat Crossfire 1000r. Engines seems very good 140 lbs compression. New sliders but some of the boggies look worn and a rear shocks busing is bad. He is will sell it for 3,200. Any suggestions appreciated.


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If you havn't rode since the 70s i would not go w a 1000 to get back into it. I suggest a 600 and 800 max. Plus 1000s are not bullet proof. The 600 and 800 zuk motor is pretty damn solid. Look for 2009-2011 f6 or f8. The 10-11 f8 ho motor is dialed in and extremely fast. Plus the suspension is really good. Best riding sled I've owned was my 07 f8, just lacked in performance because of weight and setup.

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Old 10-09-2019, 06:38 PM   #5 (permalink)
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First question, how much you have to spend? That will ultimately decide what he gets.
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Haven't rode since 70s ? I would not get a 1000cc Sled. Look for a nice clean 600 and start there. Low miles.
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Old 10-10-2019, 08:33 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Budget helps for sure.
Also I would say estart is a must
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It has like 3500 0n it. Also one of the rear shock bottom bushing is shot. Can that be repaired with out pulling the track?




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Yeah, I think you start with a budget, and then list the things you need to have.

I won't buy a sled anymore that doesn't have electric start, heated handlebar/throttle and push-button reverse. The days of being able to pick up either end of the sled and drag it around are gone. So are the days of being able to pull start a piston port 2-stroke with one hand (at least for me).

For anyone who's ridden a 70's snowmobile, any of the newer liquid-cooled engines don't compare. My '76 Colt 340 had I think 30-ish HP and was snappy or so I thought at the time (I was skinny, which helped a lot). But, even our 2004 500 liquid has 100+ HP and is more fun in the first 5 minutes than an entire day of riding that Colt.

I stepped away from snowmobiling in the early 2000's and came back a few years ago. In that time, I was shocked at the advances made. I would start looking at prices and then start learning what features they have.

IMO, you can't go wrong with a Polaris Liberty engine in either 500 or 600 form, but that's because it's what I have experience with. For a 70's rider, the Polaris XC line of sleds is a total blast. For a complete newbie to snowmobiling (like my wife), it can be a handful, depending on how it's tuned.

So, if you can ride a few before buying, that would be ideal. It takes some time to get used to riding again, especially when the sleds are so dramatically different, in terms of power delivery and handling.

A lot of dealers use Craigslist, and it's a good place to start looking for what fits within your price range. From there, Google the sled to see what features it has.

For example, a 2004 Polaris XC500 will cost you around the same, no matter what features you get (I know this, because I used the above strategy when I was looking to buy). What's not immediately obvious is that a plain XC500 does not have electric start or reverse. I don't know if reverse was an option at that time, but e-start was. The XC500SP had both of those things as standard equipment.

Polaris started putting push-button reverse on sleds in 2002, and I happen to have the first model to get it, a Classic Touring. So, knowing that 2002 was the first year for push-button reverse and knowing that the XC500SP came standard with that along with e-start, I narrowed down my search for a sled. I also found that at the time, those sleds could be found for sale at $2,000 and under, depending on condition, and that was my upper limit.

This is an example of the strategy, more so than what I would recommend (which is a really difficult subject, because of how awesome post-2000 snowmobiles are, compared to those from the 70's).

What I didn't know at the time - and would've had no way of knowing - was how sleds of that era rode. Again, for me, our XC500SP is a blast and I wish that my teen-aged self would've been able to ride one. But, for my wife, it's a little rough and darty on the trail. The big eye opener for me was when we got to try some 2020 Arctic Cats. On the XC500SP, I'll love to ride 50-60mph all day long, but she'll do maybe 20 or 30mph. I have to stop and wait for her constantly on every ride. On the new Arctic Cats, she was doing 70-75 no problem and keeping up with the rest of the group. She didn't change, the sled did. THAT'S how much of a difference there is in the new ones, and it's also how much I'll tolerate (probably because of my experiences riding - and enjoying - stuff from the 70's).

In summary, budget is the key, and then look at features. It's going to take some time to get up to speed on what's out there, how much it costs and what it's like to ride.
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