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Old 02-13-2015, 09:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I am 38 years old and am getting ready maybe next year to upgrade and spend more than $2000 on a sled for once. I have never owned a sled that wasn't atleast 10 years old and most have paid for 1 is $1450. My currently have 2 sleds an SXR 600 my GF's that I was using till I just recently finished My 2002 SRX 700 suspension upgrades. I tooke ir out last weekend and our local club trails have quite a few lakes include in the trail networks so I enjoy some nice top speed. Well stopped for a lunch and a few drinks at the local marina bar on one of the lakes where everyone was getting there liquid courage and of course with 50 sledders there of course about 40 of us engaged in some dragging from the bar well Let me get to my point my SRX700 is ported clutched piped and profesionally tuned and I only paid $1450 for the sled so with the work done I have about $1400 in it with engine work and M-10 and Ohlin suspenion. After dragging about 30 different sleds never found 1 that could beat my 13 year old sled. Not to brag not many where even close and a lot of these guys where on new to 2 year old sleds with much bigger displacement than mine. I think the fastest one that came closest was a highly modified 2003 F7. Anyways after that I am reconsidering dumping 10 grand next year on a new sled as I guess i just don't understand the need to spend that kind of money when my sled now handles great with the new suspension and well is flat out fast and after 2 years of owning it have put almost 3k miles on it and has never left me on the side of a trail. Also how much more than 10K would I have to spend on a new sled to hit 130 /on GPS as I can just about tickle that speed on my current set up?
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I would say a Z1 Turbo would do well over 130 for well under 10 Gs if that is your liking.
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M-10 and fast is an oxymoron.
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M-10 and fast is an oxymoron.


If I read the post correctly I think he is claiming close to 130 while running a m10 to boot? No way.
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If you disregard fasts mounting recommendations and push it up higher in the tunnel you wont lose any speed.....otherwise we all know what happens,its like towing another sled behind you.

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110 is only 25 mph away from 130. That is pretty close. If the Yamaha dreamometer was showing 130, he might be close to 110. About the only thing i am doubting is the GPS claim, I am thinking it was speedo.
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The cat cfr's 800/1000 and cat turbos are both rockets. If you like racing and want something modern.

It takes a lot of power to move a full ride hieght rider forward sled past 120mph. Cats mastered it with the turbo. They are stupid fast when set up.
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Lake racing is different. If you want a fast lake sled you don't need anything modern and in fact a carb'd sled with old EPA tech is better to tune the crap out of. But lets get you on a trail with that old iron and see how you handle a 300 mile day at a continuous, quick pace. Not riding balls to the wall, just 300 solid miles at a real quick pace. To me lake racing is LAME, you wanna impress me? Have a sled comfortable enough to ride 4 back to back 300 mile trail days. I never need a sled to go over 80mph. Ever. But I want it to get from 0-80 as quick as humanly possible and be reliable and comfortable. I also want it to handle amazing which your sled does NOT, trust me. Your thread does nothing to impress me and most real riders who put miles and miles on would agree with me, including all those guys in the bar. You can spend all day on a stupid lake at top speeds, I will be touring the trails at a high rate of speed. To me, your 130 mph is not fast at all, but if you can keep up with me at mile 200+ for the day at a quick pace? That is the definition of fast.
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Lake racing is different. If you want a fast lake sled you don't need anything modern and in fact a carb'd sled with old EPA tech is better to tune the crap out of. But lets get you on a trail with that old iron and see how you handle a 300 mile day at a continuous, quick pace. Not riding balls to the wall, just 300 solid miles at a real quick pace. To me lake racing is LAME, you wanna impress me? Have a sled comfortable enough to ride 4 back to back 300 mile trail days. I never need a sled to go over 80mph. Ever. But I want it to get from 0-80 as quick as humanly possible and be reliable and comfortable. I also want it to handle amazing which your sled does NOT, trust me. Your thread does nothing to impress me and most real riders who put miles and miles on would agree with me, including all those guys in the bar. You can spend all day on a stupid lake at top speeds, I will be touring the trails at a high rate of speed. To me, your 130 mph is not fast at all, but if you can keep up with me at mile 200+ for the day at a quick pace? That is the definition of fast.
Felt pretty much the same way. Very boring to speed down a lake playing lake man...once your past 100 mph the higher speeds seem irrelevant. Nothing like a good workout running a trail at high speeds for the day or a tight rough one going as fast as one could handle.
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