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Old 02-13-2020, 11:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Someone told me that the XCRs had a thicker/stiffer/stronger (what ever you want to call it) sway bar than the XLTs of similar model years, and they swapped theirs out for better cornering at high speeds.

Can anyone validate this?

I don't know anyone with a mid 90s XCR that I could measure the sway bar diameter.
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Old 02-13-2020, 12:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Someone told me that the XCRs had a thicker/stiffer/stronger (what ever you want to call it) sway bar than the XLTs of similar model years, and they swapped theirs out for better cornering at high speeds.

Can anyone validate this?

I don't know anyone with a mid 90s XCR that I could measure the sway bar diameter.
Been a while so I will do my best. Find a ‘95 XCR 600...the wedge monoblock triple. The flimsy black rod is not on it. It came stock with an aluminum tube that went across from one side to the other...I think it actually was bolted on to each trailing arm with a specially designed fitting. The tube is about 1” x 1” but is not a perfect square...had a shape to it. I remember removing a cover from the tunnel that hid a hole the exact shape of the tube.

In typical Polaris fashion it was deleted on the ‘96 XC and ‘97 XC as a cost cutting thing hoping the general public wouldn’t realize it was gone. My bro and I purchased and installed the solid aluminum sway bar on the newer sleds(‘96 and ‘97)because our ‘95’s handled so well by minimizing inside ski lift.



It does help keep inside ski lift down
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Older 440 xcr's had a thicker sway bar from what i recalled. I think poo even offered a sway bar kit for guys that wanted to put them in their indy 400-500's like the indy 500 sp had in 91.
The 95 xcr 600 was a different animal. I think it was only that one year poo ran a sway bar system as such on that sled.
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Someone told me that the XCRs had a thicker/stiffer/stronger (what ever you want to call it) sway bar than the XLTs of similar model years, and they swapped theirs out for better cornering at high speeds.

Can anyone validate this?

I don't know anyone with a mid 90s XCR that I could measure the sway bar diameter.
Been a while so I will do my best. Find a ‘95 XCR 600...the wedge monoblock triple. The flimsy black rod is not on it. It came stock with an aluminum tube that went across from one side to the other...I think it actually was bolted on to each trailing arm with a specially designed fitting. The tube is about 1” x 1” but is not a perfect square...had a shape to it. I remember removing a cover from the tunnel that hid a hole the exact shape of the tube.

In typical Polaris fashion it was deleted on the ‘96 XC and ‘97 XC as a cost cutting thing hoping the general public wouldn’t realize it was gone. My bro and I purchased and installed the solid aluminum sway bar on the newer sleds(‘96 and ‘97)because our ‘95’s handled so well by minimizing inside ski lift.



It does help keep inside ski lift down
Thank you gentlemen! With your info, I was able to find a bit more on this. Checkout the attachments to see if they seem familiar. I appreciate your help!
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Now I’m just trying to figure out if I can mod my XLT trailing arms to install one of these...
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It appears the torsion bar fastens to the trailing arms via brackets rather than the traditional slide block...

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It appears the torsion bar fastens to the trailing arms via brackets rather than the traditional slide block...

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That is correct...fastens to trailing arm both sides.

The bar in the pic does not look familiar to me. Not to say that one will not work. Seems like the bar I purchased from Polaris was silver/chrome in color...maybe aluminum.
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The newer XCR link-type bars were an extruded aluminum shape, the older ones (like '93-'95 vintage) were round tubing. The correct year trailing arms had the mounts on them, whether the link bar was installed or not. If your XLT fits into the correct year range, you would be able to install the XCR bar, though you might need to create a mount for the link on the trailing arms - never know what parts Polaris might have used. Keep in mind also that "some" early sleds had narrower ski widths. I put XCR width radius rods, steering rods, shocks and torsion bar (conventional type) on one of my old Indy 500s to get the wider ski stance. The SP version had the wide stance, the "standard" one did not.
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In typical Polaris fashion it was deleted on the ‘96 XC and ‘97 XC as a cost cutting thing hoping the general public wouldn’t realize it was gone. My bro and I purchased and installed the solid aluminum sway bar on the newer sleds(‘96 and ‘97)because our ‘95’s handled so well by minimizing inside ski lift.

It does help keep inside ski lift down

The look of that low-slung '95 XCR 600 with what I call "drag-link" sway-bar is bad to the bone. Much more complexity than the round bar with those drag-links, bean counters must have come thru in getting rid of it for MY '96. Even the '96 XCR 440SP had the round-bar.
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My 95 600 xcr was a real fun sled, handled like a slot car glued to the track. I ported, and triple piped mine, and regretted every day of it till putting it back to stock with tmx flat slides.
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