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Old 01-22-2014, 04:19 AM   #21 (permalink)
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You are correct with saying the grooming is sub contracted out in the Munising area. It is indeed Gerou excavating that has the grooming contract. They also own Comfort Inn and Days Inn. With that said the Alger County Chamber of Commerce has NOTHING to do with the trail grooming in the area. Munising does not have a club mainly because there are no volunteers and no one wants to try and get one going. 90% of the sled traffic is Munising towards grand marais so that's the heaviest traveled areas. I agree its not right to be charged $45 for a sticker when the trails are crap but what do you expect when once the groomer finally does come out it gets followed by 50 sleds within an a hour so as it was mentioned before it has no time to set up.
Agree and I Wonder why they don't groom at night to give it time to firm up?? Hmmmm, I Can't believe if they own 2 hotels up there that they don't take care of the trails like their hotels? Maybe a fluke with that wknd with the groomers being down for repairs? Who knows.
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Old 01-22-2014, 06:48 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Sounds like u had a better ride to the south! We went NW and West. Agreed that 413 was crap! Hopefully they get them fixed.
Where are and what are the "Ice Caves" u mentioned, Grand Marais??
Follow trail 8 just past Chatham to Eben. Follow the road north and make the 3rd right. The road will curve to the left and there will be a parking area on the right. You then have to hike approx 1/2 mile in but it is worth the trip.

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Follow trail 8 just past Chatham to Eben. Follow the road north and make the 3rd right. The road will curve to the left and there will be a parking area on the right. You then have to hike approx 1/2 mile in but it is worth the trip.

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Thanks Bro! Will ck it out next time!!
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My place is south of Wetmore about 15 miles or so. I ride this area all of the time. We were up from Wednesday until Sunday....we left Sunday morning.

Surprised that no one has mentioned the infamous new groomer boss that was hired. He's to oversee the grooming job by Gerou. Supposedly from the Seney area and was hired because of all of the complaints.

Overall I thought the trails were good those days that we rode. I got stiffed by a buddy for our plan to ride on Saturday so we basically rode from the trailhead on 440 north to Wetmore and back 3 or so times putting almost 120 miles on.

The last ride south was the worst with 7 south being worse than 8!

Supposedly the groomer boss hands out cards at the Buckhorn. I have yet to meet him but I rarely go to buckhorn. I was up there though and had the Hawaiian burger and I must say I'll be back for another sometime.

Maybe someone who has met this guy can post his number?
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Interesting post on the MSA Facebook page today:

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From a DNR contact in the UP....
Just wanted to make sure we pass on the good as fast as we do the “not so good”. I recently received a report that three different people (groups) were questioning who took over the grooming in Munising. The reason for the question was the their trails were better than they had ever found them! All three were basically making the same statement…. It would appear that the sponsor finally got all their equipment up and running. Great job.
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munising is the gaylord of the UP. I have never seen it smooth on a weekend

We have a house in the Munising general area. So, we get a chance to see the trends.

Weekends bring the weekend warriors, and then the rough trails. Monday morning, the trails are almost always in great shape, and that lasts until the warriors head back up.

I wonder why more people don't seek out the trail systems in other areas around the state. Why everyone seems to migrate to Gaylord and Munising...i'll never know.

We rode out of our area, down to Manistique, over toward Gould City area, then back north...and the trails/off trail areas were perfect! Best i've seen this year.

So, why the fetish with Gaylord and Munising?
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Interesting post on the MSA Facebook page today:

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Just wanted to make sure we pass on the good as fast as we do the “not so good”. I recently received a report that three different people (groups) were questioning who took over the grooming in Munising. The reason for the question was the their trails were better than they had ever found them! All three were basically making the same statement…. It would appear that the sponsor finally got all their equipment up and running. Great job.
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We have a house in the Munising general area. So, we get a chance to see the trends.

Weekends bring the weekend warriors, and then the rough trails. Monday morning, the trails are almost always in great shape, and that lasts until the warriors head back up.

I wonder why more people don't seek out the trail systems in other areas around the state. Why everyone seems to migrate to Gaylord and Munising...i'll never know.

We rode out of our area, down to Manistique, over toward Gould City area, then back north...and the trails/off trail areas were perfect! Best i've seen this year.

So, why the fetish with Gaylord and Munising?
The big Q since I found out on here is, why isn't the Sub Contractor holding up his end of the contract! I really don't look at it as a fetish. When all trails lead to or pass by certain towns u get curious as to why they were shot with this amount of snow or for the fact any year. It's a commom question on here yr after yr with everyone asking for trail conidtions from the people who live up North and who rode the past week(end), since Fishweb, MSA, ect. can't keep their websites updated every week. I've seen stuff not updated since Jan. 11th! Really??!

I totally get the wknd warriors gig. It happens all yr. Gaylord has always been a hot spot due the fact of being centrally located. Munising along with all the other big towns are hot spots in the upper. I find it strange that Munising has a Sub Contractor for grooming and the other Big Towns all have clubs. Granted I don't belong to club (shame on me) but I just don't have the time to volunteer with whatever, plus I'm not on here to bash and bitch. So the next time if i ride that area and it's in shitty shape.... Now I know why! That's why I asked this since, I'm trying to ride the UP more than the lower bcuz of the sights and better snow conditions. And got my answer by asking.

And of course with gas spent to get there, drive time, a place to stay and a $45 permit to ride u would hope ur gonna have great trails as they promote it. But that's not always the case with Breakdowns, traffic, weather, ect. and I'm good with that. U always have to take the great, good with the bad and shitty! That's why I asked.

Some have a great ride on certain trails and bad on others and we will probably never know the method to their madness on trial route grooming in high traffic area's. Volunteering as a groomer is a tough schedule and I totally understand that!
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The reason there is a sub contractor is because of money and politics. He's probably one of the only construction companies that has people working during the winter. Think about this...

Munising has but one trail going east and west and yep...you guessed right; it's trail 8. There's no loop south to go west.

I don't think that it's because it's a hub like Gaylord. Gaylord gets a lot of snow but so does the whole UP. Except for the sault and l'anse that is. The sault has good grooming though.

The other reason there is an issue is because they don't groom at night much that I've ever seen.

They did slow it down though. A couple of years ago I got behind one that was running over 15mph.
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Date: 1/21/2014
Munising Snowmobile Trail Report:
With over a foot of new snow and more on the way trails are great.
Traffic is down after a busy weekend and all trails are groomed and smooth.

Visit Munising.org for lodging.


You guys must all be liars !!!

Havent rode Trail #8 out of Munising since i trashed my tunnel on my 06 Crossfire the first year i owned it - Yes the rollers where that bad

Anyways

So many staging areas that you can trailer to out of Munising , depending upon what direction your headed - Honestly , so why deal with it ??? Besides that RR Grade #8 is so damn boring to ride , even when its half smooth

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