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Old 11-07-2019, 10:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey all. I have an Arctic Cat 800RR. Time to replace the carbides and with all the different opinions out there Iím hoping to capture some local suggestions. I would say my riding style is Versatile. Primarily trails (lake & land) however I like the flexibility to hit deep powder and have fun where itís safe and legal to do so.

Is 6Ē suitable? And particular brand? Bar vs dual? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.


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What were you using before? What did you like/dislike about them?

Asking what carbides to use is very subjective. Its like asking, whats the best oil to use. You're going to get a tonne of different suggestions and most anecdotal.

I think what would help best is to know what your previous carbides were, and what they were not doing well for you and go from there. For example, are you trying to fix darting? or too much over steer?, etc.
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What were you using before? What did you like/dislike about them?

Asking what carbides to use is very subjective. Its like asking, whats the best oil to use. You're going to get a tonne of different suggestions and most anecdotal.

I think what would help best is to know what your previous carbides were, and what they were not doing well for you and go from there. For example, are you trying to fix darting? or too much over steer?, etc.


They were just the OEM carbides from the factory. When I purchased the sled they were a little worn, however I have noticed it darting. Could be just the skis coming up though...


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I'm partial to shapers. I had 7.5" (sith 153 studs) on my 13rr and they worked awesome. Still had some darting in certain conditions but over all they were great.

Cobra head also work very well. A little spendy but worth it.

I just bought a 15rr 800 and it has snowtrackers on it. Look pretty aggressive. I'll try them and see, but I have a feeling I'll be back to shapers sooner then later.

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sharper bars and snow trackers are great solutions if you are looking for good handling day to day riding

if you want to get the sled to PERFORM
start with 6" carbide and work the wait transfer adjustments of the sled,
then to fine tune it the front spring tension adjustments will dial you in.
At that point you may want more grab in the front ,thats where the front spring adjustment and transfer will be dialed in with limiter strap adjustment and where you sit on the sled and even amount of gas in the tank.
carbides are a great start to handiling
tuning the weight transfer is where u get the full experience out of that skid
and any sled for that matter
if you have darting problems you need to adress this first
Darting usually comes from the weight from the spindle on the front of the ski pushing down on the front of the ski

its like you are always going down hilll and you can't get out of the grove from the sled in front of you

the weight on the ski should be on the rear of the ski
Go to burgstrum skeds web site for full explanation of this.

Its very important for people to understand what causes darting

Scott explains it very well so i won't go into it here.


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https://www.bergstromskegs.com/oui/why_shims.htm


Look at your current carbide wair


if the front is warn down more than the rear u have a darting problem. and the weight is in the wrong spot on the ski.

you want the weight on the back of the ski like scott explains in the link


its simple but most manufactures try and fix the problem with different ski configs.





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i have cobra heads on my rush, definitely helps with darting.
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I would say the bergstrom skegs. Lots of road riding around central ontario, so you want something that will last.
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sharper bars and snow trackers are great solutions if you are looking for good handling day to day riding

if you want to get the sled to PERFORM
start with 6" carbide and work the wait transfer adjustments of the sled,
then to fine tune it the front spring tension adjustments will dial you in.
At that point you may want more grab in the front ,thats where the front spring adjustment and transfer will be dialed in with limiter strap adjustment and where you sit on the sled and even amount of gas in the tank.
carbides are a great start to handiling
tuning the weight transfer is where u get the full experience out of that skid
and any sled for that matter
if you have darting problems you need to adress this first
Darting usually comes from the weight from the spindle on the front of the ski pushing down on the front of the ski

its like you are always going down hilll and you can't get out of the grove from the sled in front of you

the weight on the ski should be on the rear of the ski
Go to burgstrum skeds web site for full explanation of this.

Its very important for people to understand what causes darting

Scott explains it very well so i won't go into it here.


That sled should blow your mind when its dialed
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Learn to hand onto the sleds tunnel with your legs like another set of arms.


stay kind all
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Yes I absolutely love the machine. Awesome insight, thank you!


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