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Old 02-29-2020, 07:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys, I have a 700 sabercat with a bad secondary. Can I use any secondary that fits, or do I have to match the helix and spring? I have a spare off a 99 zl 600. Thanks
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Old 02-29-2020, 08:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Match to what you have now.
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I know that's what I should do but am curious as to what would change.
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Depending when your 99 ZL was built or if it's an efi, but the later model year efi build had the same helix but you will need the green spring from your sabercat. The sabercat had cut out's for O-rings to seal out moisture, but not necessary if you want to use the zl clutch. An alignment bar after install would be a good idea.
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Depending when your 99 ZL was built or if it's an efi, but the later model year efi build had the same helix but you will need the green spring from your sabercat. The sabercat had cut out's for O-rings to seal out moisture, but not necessary if you want to use the zl clutch. An alignment bar after install would be a good idea.
Those clutches were floating so as long as you have that, an alignment bar really does not help. Now if you are talking ACT drive, then yeah, but totally different clutch set up.
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The zl is a carb has a yellow spring. Maybe I'll take it for a rip tomorrow and see what is acts like.
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Pretty easy to just swap your helix and spring over into the other clutch.
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yes, I just created a tool to compress the spring. I'm just curios as to what the effect it would have to just bolt it on.
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Those clutches were floating so as long as you have that, an alignment bar really does not help. Now if you are talking ACT drive, then yeah, but totally different clutch set up.
Secondary's didn't float from 2003-2006 on the firecat/sabercat's.
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yes, I just created a tool to compress the spring. I'm just curios as to what the effect it would have to just bolt it on.
The yellow spring is much softer than the green, sled will over shift.
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