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Old 11-28-2018, 10:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all I picked up an 04 firecat 700 efi last year it’s got a clutch kit, reeds, a reverse kit, and can. Last year at the end of the season my secondary clutch fell apart into pieces it completely cracked destroyed the rollers took chunks out of the “plates” and helix so I replaced those parts and put it back in thinking it must’ve been a problem with the secondary... well 85 miles into the season it has happened again. I noticed a chattering sound coming from my clutch side when the clutch was engaging until around 5500 rpm I immediately headed back to the truck took it home and apart. The past day I’ve been ditch banging. shooting through some slightly deep snow and trying to keep up with my buddies z1 turbo (unsuccessfully) I towed my buddies f8 back to his truck (about 1000 feet) but other than that it seems like normal riding to me. Any ideas? If you need more pictures to diagnose or have questions please feel free I wanna address the real problem before I screw up another. What should I pay for another used secondary? Could I reuse anything from this one?
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Old 11-28-2018, 10:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It's not the clutch that's the problem. You have issues with the chassis.
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Old 11-28-2018, 10:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It's not the clutch that's the problem. You have issues with the chassis.
So do you think the chassis itself may be twisted or bent slightly? Anything I could do to correct this?
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Old 11-28-2018, 11:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Where are the 1" or so washers that stop it from binding? They go between the sheaves?
It looks like it bottomed out for awhile.
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Also welcome to HCS and post your location. If you are close I will take a look at it. I have a clutch and alignment bar around here somewhere.......if it's a chassis issue it should be very obvious.
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Where are the 1" or so washers that stop it from binding? They go between the sheaves?
It looks like it bottomed out for awhile.
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Also welcome to HCS and post your location. If you are close I will take a look at it. I have a clutch and alignment bar around here somewhere.......if it's a chassis issue it should be very obvious.
I have a few washers that were in it I’ll take a picture off all those tomorrow my dad took it apart while I was at work and mentioned that a bushing may have melted or fallen apart. Also I’m in northern Illinois Belvidere to be exact. Thank you for the friendly welcome!
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Where are the 1" or so washers that stop it from binding? They go between the sheaves?
It looks like it bottomed out for awhile.
I believe I’m missing a shim or something or maybe one of the washers I’m gonna replace it and then and ride it for a half hour or so and take it apart and see if it’s wearing like this again.
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I believe Iím missing a shim or something or maybe one of the washers Iím gonna replace it and then and ride it for a half hour or so and take it apart and see if itís wearing like this again.
With that clutch?
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If you are talking about reusing any parts off of the clutch in the pic I would say all that stuff looks ready for the scrap pile. Damn! That helix must have gotten pretty f’n hot to melt the bushings like that.
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Look at the worn and rusted shaft though guys. I'd say that clutch had been worn out for Years, before he bought it. Then it was wobbling so bad it stuck the rollers, and the helix just ground into them. That didn't happen instantly either. At that point it was shifting, sticking, letting the belt fall way inside, making it worse. Two worn out junk clutches. I highly doubt any priblem with the sled. Unless the bearings on the shaft are also junk, letting clutch actually wobble, which, we would say isn't typically possible but Ehh....15 year old possibly well used and abused sled....who knows what could be junk.
I'd get that thing looked at by maybe a person more familiar with sleds.
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