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FirstTraxx 01-28-2006 10:08 PM

I have a 2005 F7 Sno Pro, that won't handle well. Inside ski lift!!!! Described as snakey and out of control. Limiter strap has been pulled up, FOX floats at 60 psi, 10 inch carbides, 153 1.5" studs, don't know what to do, any ideas?? Dealer wants me to pull 51 studs?? Thinks I'm pushing through the corner, think he's nuts!!! Can't keep up to my brother's Doo 1000 in corners, drives me crazy, have almost had a few introductions to some very large trees!!!

pro tc 01-28-2006 10:33 PM

i have 9 inch sharpers and run 50 psi in my floats. also same amount of studs. i try to never use my brake unless coming to a stop, only gas in corners. so it will keep the skis planted. i have no problem with ski lift.
barry

FirstTraxx 01-28-2006 10:50 PM

I just don't understand it, the ski lift is so bad that I either have to make the decision to run through the corner, roll it over (hasnt' happen yet) or tap the brake to get the ski to drop down. I honestly think that there is something wrong with this sled!! I'm used to ZR, ZRT, T-Cat chassis, point and shoot, this is my first Firecat. I don't know what to do. Today we did 245 miles and I was fighting the thing the whole way just to keep up!! You can only lean so far, there is a point when your ass hits the snow!!!

zrt 01-29-2006 12:03 AM

Loosen the front shock spring in the skid until it just rattles and then tighten it up a turn.

Set the coupler blocks to a higher number.

The riding style is a bit different on these compared to the ZRís (they need more rider input)ÖTry to get as far forward as you can while leaning.

flight 01-29-2006 12:15 AM

Its got to be the float shocks, you better trade me for my standard shocks, its rails!!!

wizzard717 01-29-2006 12:47 AM

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Originally posted by FirstTraxx@Jan 28 2006, 10:50 PM
II was fighting the thing the whole way just to keep up!! You can only lean so far, there is a point when your ass hits the snow!!!
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I am having the same problem but i dont think its as bad....on my old ZR, i could literally throw the sled into a corner and just hammer the gas and it would rail the corner like a rollercoaster...my f-cat is not even close to that. I figured that its just some getting used to...i hope. The next thing is, when riding over the moguls and the bigger bumps, it feels like the sled wants to throw me off. I am thinking that my rear suspension is set too stiff....there are three settings and i have it on the stiffest. If i changed this setting to loosen it up....shouldnt that help me out ??? I mean i am having trouble keeping up in our group with guys who ride 500's. you'd think i catch them on the straight aways but i cant ride too fast cause the sled feels like it wants to throw me off over the bumps ! ! I am not a real big guy either... 5'10 175....too stiff ??????????

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flight 01-29-2006 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by ZRT@Jan 29 2006, 12:03 AM
Loosen the front shock spring in the skid until it just rattles and then tighten it up a turn.

Set the coupler blocks to a higher number.

The riding style is a bit different on these compared to the ZRís (they need more rider input)ÖTry to get as far forward as you can while leaning.
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He is right it needs a bunch of rider input also as he mentioned get as far forward as possible, I just recently took my tank bag off so I could get further foward and it helped quite a bit. I have C&A razors with Woodys 8" carbide, 153 Woodys goldiggers(woodys template) and my sled handles like it is on rails. The big thing with getting the Firecat to turn is you almost have to have your ass sitting on the rails to get it to corner great. Good luck. Let us know what you do if you have any luck.

DustyF7 01-29-2006 01:55 AM

I had my F7 since 03.. I know its not floats.. But no matter what you do.. It sucks in the turns.. turn the front shocks up or down.. Limitter straps up or down..
shaper bars. dooley's Ive did it all.. and even lean like a bitch to see it it would help any.. and nothing

Only thing that helps is to let off the gas... !! :banghead: :banghead:

Firecat can not be compared to a ZR as far as cornering bye no means..
ZR will out corner a firecat.. hands-down...

Steve

128jetsnake 01-29-2006 02:14 AM

Half way through reading your post, I was thinking take some studs out. Looks like your dealer beat me to it.

I must have got a good one. My brother is trying to figure out how to make his ZR800 handle better so he can keep with me on the tight and twisties. But of corse, I'm not on the stock settings.

IMO the FireCat is way better then the 98ZR in the corners.

sqidd 01-29-2006 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by FirstTraxx@Jan 28 2006, 10:08 PM
Dealer wants me to pull 51 studs?? Thinks I'm pushing through the corner, think he's nuts!!!
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He is right, you have too many studs for hard cornering. Too much traction in back, not enough in front.

I'm sure some of you are going to flame me for this, but keep in mind, going arround corners is what I do, see pics in sig.


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