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Old 03-27-2019, 02:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Xskier, Andy from Heath's Harbor, just purchased a leftover 2019 850 Indy. PIDD, e-start, Cobra 129" track. I just returned from helping him inspect and set it up.

I installed three Delrins in his secondary.

Checked clutch alignment. Was improperly floated.
Had two .120" washers behind and about .060-.080" inward, but no outward float. Also, engine was cocked way forward. Gap at rear of alignment tool was about .080" when front of tool was touching.

We left the 2 washers behind the secondary, but added two thin washers under the outer large washer. Total float is now about .220". Belt deflection was too loose. Chaincase oil was full.

We removed the PTO oil injection hose and applied air pressure. It held 5 psi before dumping anything above that. This was to see if the fitting was blocked by case sealer. This pressure was only 2-3 psi on my own 850. Hmmm.

Also found a lot of air bubbles in the oil injection feed line from the tank. Bled most out.

This sled is headed north to the UP in a day or so.

More info to follow.
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Couple of questions. First is did you rotate the motor to compensate for the tool? If so how? Mine is the same but thought maybe I had wrong tool. It was for my 16 AXYS 800.

Is he going riding in the Yoop?
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Old 03-27-2019, 04:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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[QUOTE=poopooforme;20199784]Couple of questions. First is did you rotate the motor to compensate for the tool? If so how? Mine is the same but thought maybe I had wrong tool. It was for my 16 AXYS 800.

Is he going riding in the Yoop?[/QUOTE]

No. Although we discussed how to reshim it.

Yes, going to Calumet.
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Old 03-28-2019, 07:25 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Xskier is adding 144 1.575 trigger studs before he heads North.

He also found some missing bolts at the front bumper area.
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New input:
Andy just discovered that his skis were way off on alignment.

Also, the track was never aligned.

After all this, anyone who doesn't check their own critical areas is riding at serious risk. Dealers can't be relied on to do this.
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Xskier is adding 144 1.575 trigger studs before he heads North.

He also found some missing bolts at the front bumper area.
Is he doing a 3,3,3,3,4 pattern to get the 144? Just curious Phil ... thanks.
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New input:
Andy just discovered that his skis were way off on alignment.

Also, the track was never aligned.

After all this, anyone who doesn't check their own critical areas is riding at serious risk. Dealers can't be relied on to do this.
This is the kind of stuff that pisses me off about these lazy dealers. I had to pay for my pdi on my 19 and I wouldnt dare take it for a ride until I went through everything myself.
The track tension and alignment was off, belt deflection was too loose and after they put the sea level clutch weights in it they put the clutch on with an impact. You should have seen the mess I had when I got it back after having the crank replaced. They just lost my business because I snowchecked a 2020 at another dealer.
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Is he doing a 3,3,3,3,4 pattern to get the 144? Just curious Phil ... thanks.
He told me he used a 2442424424 pattern Chris. 54 studs on outside belt. Rest inside. Doesn't make sense to me.
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He told me he used a 2442424424 pattern Chris. 54 studs on outside belt. Rest inside. Doesn't make sense to me.
Maybe he uses that new "common core" math
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Andy just discovered that his skis were way off on alignment.

Also, the track was never aligned.

After all this, anyone who doesn't check their own critical areas is riding at serious risk. Dealers can't be relied on to do this.<img src="https://www.hardcoresledder.com/forums/images/smilies/shocked.png" border="0" alt="" title="" class="inlineimg" />
This is the kind of stuff that pisses me off about these lazy dealers. I had to pay for my pdi on my 19 and I wouldnt dare take it for a ride until I went through everything myself.
The track tension and alignment was off, belt deflection was too loose and after they put the sea level clutch weights in it they put the clutch on with an impact. You should have seen the mess I had when I got it back after having the crank replaced. They just lost my business because I snowchecked a 2020 at another dealer.
This is what happens when pricing is so tight from dealer to dealer. Guys will go to the cheapest dealer even if they have to drive 2 hours to get that 300 off the sled. Me I'll pay the extra 300 to my regular dealer and know I'll be looked after if something goes wrong.

There is virtually no loyalty anymore to a dealer.

I go to my regular dealer as much as I can for everything. I realize for some in certain areas there hours away from the dealer they cant go to them for everything.

It's a tough market to be in.
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