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Old 04-28-2017, 10:23 PM   #11 (permalink)
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A friend of mine just said he went sidewinder because it moves the weight a lot better than the viper and it also is easier to ride at trail speed , almost electric feeling
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Old 05-02-2017, 09:57 AM   #12 (permalink)
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A friend of mine just said he went sidewinder because it moves the weight a lot better than the viper and it also is easier to ride at trail speed , almost electric feeling
Right on, thanks.
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Old 07-07-2017, 09:16 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I COULD tell ya about the sidewinder and the comparison you're looking for.....but I have little seat time on a Viper......and the comment about TY is 100% right on...Mr.Sled will make sure nothing gets said bad about their products, and if you ask too many questions he will ban you like he did me as he believes it's bashing when all you're trying to do is learn and filter the rumors so you know what you'd be getting into before you get it......

All I can say is you won't be disappointed unless you don't stud it and run those crap oem skis.....and it ain't like no Yamaha I ever rode once you get that power down better an can cut a corner......
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Old 07-08-2017, 01:07 PM   #14 (permalink)
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At the risk of sounding "biased", had a 14 Viper, went to a longer tracked 15 Viper and liked them both . Put a set of Curves on 15 and could not believe the difference in handling, Yamaha has worst stock skis in snowmobiling, at least that's how my blue goggle covered eyes see it. Only other thing I might mention is Viper should have a little more top end but suspension seems to limit it.
Now on a Sidewinder, SE XTX, fun factor is off the charts! No point in trying to convey the feeling of this sled, it hides the weight very well and handles better than any Viper. Then tried a set of Pilot 5.9's and even better yet, ran out of snow before I could try Curves on it.
Only other thing is should have went for QR3's for shocks, the floats are ok but a compromise. Friend has Cat with QR3's and they are a step above.
Hope this helps, any questions just ask.
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Old 07-08-2017, 01:24 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Have to agree 100% with Saskguy on the shock package...it really makes the difference...
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Old 08-03-2017, 08:08 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Yup i have some seat time on last years winder it XTX and ltx versions. I own 2 turbo vipers one is 265 hp and one is 350 ( that one is still in being upgraded by Allen Ulmer). I tend to like the XTX for the uncoupled suspension and much better launch capability. I still had to install the hygear rear suspension coupler to keep the skis on the ground part of the time. The winder is basically the same suspension as the viper in each format. The big diff is th shock packages. I ditched all of the fox floats and am runnign hygear axys coil over clickers in all 4 spots and it is the wod of difference. The new sleds are now coming with much better shocks.

If you compare a n/a viper to a winder the winder handles better because you have the power to sweep the track even when heavily studded, in the corners. I have the original 1.6" track with 150 screw in studs in the paddles and another 144 woody's in the track ad at low boost of 235 hp i can snap the 141" track around like a sprint car still under control ! at 265 i need to be a little careful. Now the 14 with 350 hp has 400 chissel points in it so i dont think there will be any sweeping.....maybe a change of underwear will fit in the tunnel pouch!!
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Old 11-12-2017, 10:35 AM   #17 (permalink)
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They are THE EXACT SAME CHASSIS AS THE VIPER...... IDENTICAL...... sooooo how do you think they handle compared to the viper? Lol
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There have been a few and a few honest ride reports on these animals. Bottom line, they are no butterfly when it comes to rough trails, it's heavy and will wear you out at days end, there is no hiding that. They are fast and are a lake sled. They will run the trails, but if you push it all day like you would with a lighter sled, you are going to be a tired pup at the end of the day. Smooth trails you will be fine, but when it gets rough and you want to go fast, be prepared to pay for it. Just the truth. Not one sled fits the bill for everything, but some Doo it way better than others.
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Old 11-12-2017, 01:37 PM   #19 (permalink)
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They are THE EXACT SAME CHASSIS AS THE VIPER...... IDENTICAL...... sooooo how do you think they handle compared to the viper? Lol
Thanks, I understand that but the motors are not. I was just trying to find out if the weight difference between the motors (1049 vs 998) changed the trail manners in that chassis.............Sooooooooo I'll guess I'll find out for myself end of December.
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Old 11-12-2017, 08:21 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Thanks, I understand that but the motors are not. I was just trying to find out if the weight difference between the motors (1049 vs 998) changed the trail manners in that chassis.............Sooooooooo I'll guess I'll find out for myself end of December.
thats what im saying weez, you need to get yourself some of those trail manners
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