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TeamBeavis
Maybe somebody out there knows the answer to this.

Does Polaris make a tunnel/cooler protector to fit the Fusions with the M-10 suspension (128" track)?

I asked for the kit when I picked up the sled and the kit I recieved is for the 121" track (P/N 2874687). At the time, I didn't realize there was a difference. I didn't notice that my sled has about a 4" extension rivited on the end of the tunnel along with extensions of the rails for the tunnel/cooler protectors until I went to install the kit. If I were to install the protectors, they would be able to slide back and forth on the empty section of the extension.

The way it looks to me is that there should be a kit with longer protectors to fit the sleds that have the M-10 installed (i.e., Why add rail extensions for the protectors if they are not going to be used?). I called the dealer and they say that the kit I have is the right one from what they can tell, but I don't believe that it is (they really didn't sound too convincing, either). I suppose that I can rig up something to make this kit work, but I don't really want to.

Has anybody bought a kit for a Fusion with the M-10 that the protectors are long enough to fit flush with the end of the tunnel? If so, could you please tell me the Part Number so I can ask my dealer to get it.

Should I be asking for the kit for the 700 Classic? It has the M-10 standard, I believe. I'm just not sure if the tunnel/cooler length is the same as mine.


Damn, this is lot of typing for something so stupid. :banghead:
ExcursionPSD
The 128" M-10 is on all Fusions equipped with an M-10 and on IQ Classics.

Your dealer should have used part number 2875640 WEAR STRIP KIT FUSION M-10/CLA $25 list.

The tunnel protector add-on strips are not available separately at this time.

You will need to drill the rivets out of the close off covers to remove the short ones. You're also going to need rivets to reinstall the snow flap. These parts are all in the kit.
fusion900ryder
my bud just added a piece of hyfax in the rear about 4''...........that is just holding the other pc. in place..............
danracefan
ok

another thing i noticed on my m-10

they took out the boggie wheels in the "middle" (more near the end) of the rear skid

i called polaris today- they claim even though all the brochures and even the owners manual show the 2nd set of wheels just ahead of the track adjustments they decided in final production not to add this set of wheels !

so now there is a huge gap w/ no wheels from the front set, to the rear return cog wheel

anybody else notice this ?- the holes are there drilled for the wheels as well

i think the slides will wear greatly w/out these wheels

going to the dealer today to order a wheel kit w/ $ out of my own pocket, and honestly im alittle "miffed" at polaris for doing this- come on- its 2 wheels !!!!!!
fusion900ryder
QUOTE(danracefan @ Oct 13 2005, 02:57 PM)
ok

another thing i noticed on my m-10

they took out the boggie wheels in the "middle"  (more near the end) of the rear skid

i called polaris today- they claim even though all the brochures and even the owners manual show the 2nd set of wheels just ahead of the track adjustments they decided in final production not to add this set of wheels  !

so now there is a huge gap w/ no wheels from the front set,  to the rear return cog wheel

anybody else notice this ?-  the holes are there drilled for the wheels as well

i think the slides will wear greatly w/out these wheels

going to the dealer today to order a wheel kit w/ $ out of my own pocket, and honestly im alittle "miffed"  at polaris for doing this-  come on-  its 2 wheels !!!!!!
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my buds is the same dunno.gif dunno.gif
ExcursionPSD
QUOTE(fusion900ryder @ Oct 13 2005, 05:50 PM)
my buds is the same  dunno.gif  dunno.gif
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The carrier wheels are relocated on their own bracket behind the rear torque arm mount in the tunnel. You need to make sure your outside mounted bogies will not interfere with them when the rails move in to the tunnel.
danracefan
the holes are there already for the blocks

and i looked inside the skid this morning- and they have drastically cut back on wheel sets on the inside too--

should i just compress the skid to test to make sure they don't come into contact w/ anything ?

there is a ton- of room between those inside carrier wheels near the front shock and the area im talking about

its literally "no mans land" for wheel support from the front set the the return cog
ExcursionPSD
QUOTE(danracefan @ Oct 14 2005, 09:46 AM)
the holes are there already for the blocks

and i looked inside the skid this morning- and they have drastically cut back on wheel sets on the inside too--

should i just compress the skid to test to make sure they don't come into contact w/ anything ?

there is a ton- of room between those inside carrier wheels near the front shock and the area im talking about

its literally "no mans land"  for wheel support from the front set the the return cog
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You got me thinking about this, so I checked on some '05 and '06 Edge M-10 121" sleds. They have a pair of inside bogie wheels on a solid shaft, just forward of the bumpers on the rail where the upper part of the rear torque arm could hit in a maximum compression. They have a pair of cast bracket mounted bogies forward of this on the outside of the rail. They have three rear idlers. The main difference is they all have smaller bogie wheels and rear idlers and carrier wheels than the IQ M10. This will help reduce drag and improve speed and efficiency.

Carrier wheels are the wheels that used to be (Edge M10) mounted directly on the upper mounting shaft for the rear torque arm, they are up in the tunnel, not on the slide rail. The 128" IQ M-10 has them mounted on brackets inside the tunnel. They now can use a standard 1" ID 6205LU bearing.
SHORTFUSED900
QUOTE(ExcursionPSD @ Oct 15 2005, 01:20 AM)
You got me thinking about this, so I checked on some '05 and '06 Edge M-10 121" sleds.  They have a pair of inside bogie wheels on a solid shaft, just forward of the bumpers on the rail where the upper part of the rear torque arm could hit in a maximum compression.  They have a pair of cast bracket mounted bogies forward of this on the outside of the rail.  They have three rear idlers.  The main difference is they all have smaller bogie wheels and rear idlers and carrier wheels than the IQ M10.  This will help reduce drag and improve speed and efficiency.

Carrier wheels are the wheels that used to be (Edge M10) mounted directly on the upper mounting shaft for the rear torque arm, they are up in the tunnel, not on the slide rail.  The 128" IQ M-10 has them mounted on brackets inside the tunnel.  They now can use a standard 1" ID 6205LU bearing.
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Mornin' Excusrsion....

Hey, just wanted to take a quick second and say "thanks".

I did a lot of research before snowchecking my o6 900 fuse earlier this year, weighing all the pros and the few cons. It was constant expert advice from posters like you that convinced me I would be pleased with this sled.

Since I 'checked it in April, I have read and filed many of the expert tips you have given on this sled for future reference.

The information you provide on a regular basis is invaluable to readers like me, who don't have a direct connection to some of the info you can readily obtain and share.

I come to this site because of the interest and information good people like you provide on a regular basis.

People tend not to say "thanks" enough now adays.

Thought I'd say it for me and I'm sure a countless other number of Fuse owners out here that enjoy and profit from your efforts! luxhello.gif

Skip
fusion900ryder
QUOTE(SHORTFUSED900 @ Oct 15 2005, 07:56 AM)
Mornin' Excusrsion....

Hey, just wanted to take a quick second and say "thanks".

I did a lot of research before snowchecking my o6 900 fuse earlier this year, weighing all the pros and the few cons. It was constant expert advice from posters like you that convinced me I would be pleased with this sled.

Since I 'checked it in April, I have read and filed many of the expert tips you have given on this sled for future reference.

The information you provide on a regular basis is invaluable to readers like me, who don't have a direct connection to some of the info you can readily obtain and share.

I come to this site because of the interest and information good people like you provide on a regular basis.

People tend not to say "thanks" enough now adays.

Thought I'd say it for me and I'm sure a countless other number of Fuse owners out here that enjoy and profit from your efforts! luxhello.gif

Skip
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tanks from me too................................... :div20: :div20: :div20:
ExcursionPSD
QUOTE(fusion900ryder @ Oct 15 2005, 08:25 AM)
tanks from me too................................... :div20:  :div20:  :div20:
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You are all VERY welcome,

I started cross country racing when I was 25.

You could fill a warehouse with what I didn't know. I could never thank all the people that have helped (or tried to help) me. When I asked how I could pay them back, all the really good ones, said

Pass it on.

I am just trying to pay off many old debts.
danracefan
Yes-- I should thank You as well-- Do You work on sleds daily ? Someone w/ this much knowledge usually works on sleds for a living and not internet type heads like myself
:cn: :cn: :cn:

My 128"M-10 only has 1 set of inner wheels up near the front shock, then nothing to the rear idler wheels (3)

now Im going to ask You a $64,000 question !!

Should I install the wheel kit just infront of the M-10 adjustor blocks that sit on the rail ?
Im leaning toward doing-- for the main reason of saving my slides !!! I usually burn through 1 pair a year and don't want to be changing these by the end of january

thanks again for all the help-- Im miffed at polaris- because ALL documentation they show-- has this wheel kit installed, and in my opinion will be needed.
ExcursionPSD
I haven't got my hands on a 128" M-10 since spring. I want to verify that the addition of outside bogie wheels in the normal position forward of the FRA block and adjusting bolt, will NOT interfere with the rearward loacated, and enlarged carrier wheels. on the left side the remote reservoir for the rear shock used to mounted in brackets on the outside of the rail, but this reservoir is now mounted on the nylon shock cover. So the reservoir does not interfere with the addition of bogie wheels like it used to.

If you do add the bogies, make sure that you get 5.62" diameter wheels, not the smaller 5.35" ones used on the M10B on the Edge chassis. These bogie wheels are also going to be equipped with the smaller id bearings (3514384 6004LU .7874Id 1.6535od .4724wide) that Polaris has used on rear idlers starting with the 1995 Xtra-10 and Xtra-12. They are the same bogie wheels as used on the IQ suspension.
RippinFusion
This is a bit off topic but, whatever.

How does the overall length of an M-10 equipped Fusion compare to a IQ Fusion. It appears to have a longer OAL. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

Reason is because by brother ordered a 700 w/ M-10 and I have an 05. We have a 10' enclosed trailer and mine is pretty tight but fits fine and we are worried that his will be too long. Everyone told us the sled would fit in the spring but we will find out for sure this weekend when he picks it up.

Thanks
danracefan
I have a 99 triton 101 x 10 foot (i think)

my fusion fits ok on the trailer, it was close but it fits

and i of course have the m-10-- no worries w/ the trailer- rest easy on that


ok- on the boogies- i measured them and talk to my polaris mech. and he said they are just standard old boogies-- nothing special
i forgot the measurement exactly
ExcursionPSD
QUOTE(danracefan @ Oct 19 2005, 09:01 AM)
I have a 99 triton  101  x 10 foot  (i think)

my fusion fits ok on the trailer, it was close but it fits

and i of course have the m-10--  no worries w/ the trailer- rest easy on that
ok- on the boogies- i measured them and talk to my polaris mech. and he said they are just standard old boogies-- nothing special
i forgot the measurement exactly
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Did you measure the ID of the bearings?

Standard old bogies (like on the Edge M-10 and Edge 121) are 5.35" in diameter, what did yours measure out to?
exactly...

Find out how many IQ M-10s your mechanic has worked on.

The sled is 4 inches longer, due to the tunnel extension.
danracefan
Ok
the bogie is 5 and 3/8 inches
the inner diameter where the bolt is etc. is 1 5/8 inches
does this help ?

Also-- those carrier wheels You talked about are directly over the pre-drilled holes on the slide rail. And You are 100% correct on the resevior being mounted to the rear, rear-- nylon covered shock


if someone tells me how to post pics on here i can snap photos of my rear skid and put them on hear too
ExcursionPSD
QUOTE(danracefan @ Oct 19 2005, 02:51 PM)
Ok
the bogie is 5 and 3/8 inches
the inner diameter where the bolt is etc. is 1 5/8 inches
does this help ?

Also-- those carrier wheels You talked about are directly over the pre-drilled holes on the slide rail. And You are 100% correct on the resevior being mounted to the rear, rear-- nylon covered shock
if someone tells me how to post pics on here i can snap photos of my rear skid and put them on hear too
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I looked real closely at an FS Classic at the Milwaukee Snow Show, and there are two problems with mounting the bogies on the outside just forward of the FRA.

1. The bogie wheels will cover up the FRA axle bolt and the adjusting bolts.

2. The bogie wheels will very likely interfere with the carrier wheels in the tunnel.



Also, the rear shock reservoir on this sled was mounted under the rear torque arm, next to the shock, with some worm clamps into a small welded on strap. This is different than the drawings in the Polaris parts manual. The same rear torque arms are used on the Fusion M-10s and the IQ Classics and the IQ Tourings.
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