:banghead: anyone else get this letter about the new SUPER CLOG BELT for all IQ and that no further development is planned on the o5 vibration!!!!! they say it is due to the big bore long stroke and current mounting system and the fuel map that they promised eariler in the TOWN HALL MTG. will not be forthcoming :banghead:

At least they sent you a letter noting what they plan on doing :div20:

Most manufacture will NOT admit to a problem

I truly believe that Polaris has "given up" on the 05 Fusion 900s. They just cant make the sled work the way it is supposed to with updates alone. It needs major engine and chassis re-engineering to perform the way owners expected them to.

Got the letter. It also said that they've tried various re-maps, and it caused poor cold starting and effected performance.

I don't see any solution to the vibration, other than a counterbalancer. Personally, the vibration was never an issue with my experiance.

I wonder if a TRA rotax clutch with the built on dampener would calm down the 900 vibe? Maybe poo could develop, or aftermarket, a polaris clutch face with some sort of harmonic balancer on it? I know an iso vibe and foam insulation in the bars went a long way in reducing vibe on mine. I also had a bar end from a sport bike that was anti vibe designed.

Well, they can take a long stroke on my big bore.
Good job Polaris.......idiots. :banghead:

The vibration is from an unbalanced crank and piston assembly. Polaris has been told this. If you want it fixed contact Dave at Spoiled Sports, he balances assembly at 8500 rpm and removes excessive mass

Spoiled Sports

got the letter, I toke great joy in putting it in the trash can since I have gotten rid of that sled !

Would have been nice to send it to the guy who bought it.

He will find out it's a POS soon enough...No point in rushing the bad news... :smilielol:

Oh those first year sleds.........LOL !!!!!!

If that's the case, then why is there still vibs in the 06?

Because they never corrected it , I just got mine back and believe me its not about removing weight,that you would do to a regular round crank, taking a little off to be balanced at the right rpm, Fusion cranks are pork chopped design and when they balence it to the 8300 , sometimes the add , somtimes they subtract. In my case with the fusion its about harmonics.This is not a cheap thing to do but ask any racer Bike,Atv,drag etc you want to get to you're rpm fast and smooth . And above all you don't send your crank to some rinkydink shop .There is only a couple of good shops in the USA ,I sent mine down and was impressed when it came back. Crankshafts is all they do . so I'm not saying you should do this I'm saying this is for me,I've seen it on race bikes , mod sleds .I'm repeating myself but its about harmonics

Hmmm... Thats funny, my 06 vibrates less than my kids indy 500.

Remember the 87 Yam. Exciter ? Harmonic distortion at certain RPM's. Actually caused the fuel flow to interrupted. Dyno Tech I beleive found it. Or was it PSI Inc. ?

THAT'S funny because my BROTHER'S 06 vibrates like a paint shaker.

:no_bashing: guys. Lets stick to the rules before this topic gets closed.

Polaris didn't fix it, Spoiled Sports have a deal with a top engine builder in Florida to balance crank assembly.

Traded it in to my dealer on a 600HO, so all's kool !

Hmmm .... lets see it's early Oct and you have 500 miles on already, correct ???
If it vibrates less than your 500 then something is wrong with that sled.

:doh: WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING IS THAT THE FIX FOR THE BELT IS A SUPER BELT AT A COST OF $ 150.00 FIRST ONE IS FREE AFTER THAT THE COST IS MINE HOPE THEY LAST LONGER THAT THE OTHER 3 I WENT THROUGH LAST YEAR THIS IS A GOOD WAY FOR POL TO GET MORE MONEY OUT OF US :celebrating:

Where did I say I had 500 miles on? Also sitting idling there is less vibration on my 06 than there is on my 03 500, which there is nothing the matter with.

I'm talking ski tips shaking handlebars shaking etc...Of course I will no better once I can ride, but for now I am gonna say the vibration is very little.

Falicon Cranks one of the best crank shaft shops in the country.


Krom

I now now why your worried about vibration after viewing your avatar. You should see an ass doctor about removing the horn you have stickin' out ya ass. :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:

Thinksno with all do respesct you shouldnt be saying that a top engine builder is doing the cranks ,becuse they do not rebuild engines ,just cranks and crank related parts ,conn rods etc. and Krom is right falicon is the best ,and if you think I'm wrong , my crank was the one he sent down.

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What kind of price are we talking and did it make that much difference? Did you take the motor apart yourself?......... Details man details :cn:

Vibrations, wrong info I gues I can blow it out my ass! :augen41:



My bad, Falicon is not an engine builder. Have You got your sled back yet? Are you going to do some SLP mods? I think it will rock. Dave has always machined and sent my clutches out for balancing. I swear balanced clutches are not just smoother they get more track HP, it will be interesting to see the difference. Tell Dave to blow the dust off the dyno and verify the results! :div20:

Amen to that brother ,you'll see what I'm doing, don't worry :beer:

I picked up my new HO last Saturday, and my dealer showed me the "new belt".
It has cogs on top the same depth as the bottom!!! Might run cooler, but it didn't leave much MEAT on the belt. I'll bet those will blow quicker than hell.

I thought that Polaris was going to update the motor mounts on the 05's? What happened to that?

I've never ridden a 900 Fusion, but I did ride my buds 900 Cat, it was an 03 I think. I rode it about 40 miles. Let me tell ya, IT SHAKES!! Dude's, they're 900's, its gonna shake!! My dealer also sells Doo's, he said the Mach Z shakes worse than any of them. Two Folgers cans going up and down is gonna shake. Don't like it: buy a smaller sled or a triple. I cant believe people would buy a 900 thinking that it is going to be silky smooth.

JMO! :doh:

the big Z shouldnt shake that badly, it has counterbalancer in it :div20:

uuuuuuhhhhhhh...................the big Z doesn't shake at all.

well I own a fuse ,and a freind had a Z last year, until he took it into a tree,it was smooth , thats what counterbalencers do yunno :doh:

:bs: my buddy bought one last year and it shakes at an idle just like the fusion..

:bs: Come on no shake???? Hello....wakey wakey.... Dont get me wrong Great sled....But it vib pretty good too.......

And I dont want to be bashing his mach , but he was blowing belts , put a vent kit on in quebec, I didn't go on that trip so don't ask me the details .any big twin is going to vibrate at somepoint.

Hell, my 600 H.0. vibrates, as does my 800 twin. They are all going to vibrate. I can't believe all the big babys out there that whine about vibration like it's going to kill them or something.

my buddys zr 900 shakes so bad we call it the blender.getting him a decal that says blender racing.

thats what i said..........you would think these guys never seen another brand of big twin vibrate ever...................ALL SLEDS VIBRATE.......some more than others .....BIG DEAL :cn: :cn: :cn: :cn: :cn: :cn: :cn: :cn: :cn: :cn:

You can say the vibes are no big deal (and maybe they aren't for you). But with my Fusion I've had to stop a few rides because I had lost the feeling in both my hands and my feet. Never felt a sled vibrate like this thing before. I need a fix. Isovibe was no help.

I rode the mach z last year and I can tell you first hand that the mach vibrates at least half of what my fuse does. What worries me the most is not so much how it feels, but more about what the vibs do to the chasis. (ie. loose bolts, broken mounts, rivets letting go, etc.) I guess it bothers some more than others. I went from a super smooth 99 700xcr triple to the 05 fuse and the vibs took a while to get used to. Most people that ride mine complain about that more than anything. I will also say that if the crank is so inconsistant in balance, that would explain why there is such a varience in peoples opinion of the vibs

They all vibrate to a degree. I believe that the issue with the fusion is that the vibratons resonate worse at certain frequencies (harmonics?) throughout the powerband (due to the lack of counterbalance?). My fusion doesen't vibrate any worse than my other sleds at idle, but there is a very noticeable resonance felt between 2000-2500 RPM that gets your attention. I don't find it to be a problem, but it does get your attention as you pass through that range.

Peak vibration on mine is from 5400-5800 and thats where I spend most of my time.

I too rode a couple different Mach's last year... very smooth sled at idle and at speed. Rode a Mach and Fuse back to back on one of the occasions. Gotta say, I liked the Mach better.

I agree with the above posts. The Mach Z is 10X better sled than the Fusion 900.

10x is a reach considering the mighty mach had issues as well! The one thing it did well is live up to the hype of top end performance.

Fuel delivery when below half tank

slides burning off prematurely

plugs fouling in cold temps

decompression ports

ecu reflash

rear suspension that didn't live up to rev standards

e-rave cable update

egt sensor update

pyramidal frame bolt update

:augen41:

One thing about the MACH is SKI-DOO is installing a secondary fuel pump,
egt sensor, decompression plugs under warranty on all 05....

uhhhhhhhhh..........WHAT? The Ski-Dog is a good sled, and so is the Fusion. The Fusion seemed to be the "Whipping Boy" FOR 2005, AND THE BULLSHIT JUST CONTINUES. Lets see....a first run sled, all new engine , chassis, front suspension....and it's not perfect. How dare Poo release something like that!

Just my .02...Thanks for your support. :drunk:


PS. Even if any Skippy-doo were to be 10x better than a Polaris, I still wouldn't be on a doo. hehe

The MACH Z was marketed as a "bad ass black muscle sled" and it lived up to its marketing.

The Fusion-- was just marketed as a new sled from Polaris-- not a muscle sled, not a trail cruiser, not an XC replacment. Just-- hey here's a new sled from us since 2001 oh and by the way-- its a 900 cc that costs $9,000 !!

The Fusion got dragged threw the mud like Janet Jacksons boob did from the super bowl incident.

I think ski doo has taken so much of the market share w/ the REV that all the doo heads kept the Mach problems under the rug.
I know a guy whom blew 5 belts on his $11k mach, at $120 a piece for the belts, and doo refused to warranty any of them !!

At least the 900 vibrates for free !!! its like sleeping in a cheap trucker motel w/ one of those coin operated vibrating beds !!

the Fusion will make its mark this year. I think every diehard Polaris customer like myself will be on a 600, and the ones who are'nt- will be next year-- wow im sick of typing !!!

problem for most is there is no fix, the updates aren't enough, if it were my money spent< I'd be upset to.