ScottyR
Oct 11 2005, 07:53 PM
I am seriously considering an 06 Fusion 600 HO for the upcoming season but I am having some reservations about the 600 motor. I am afraid that I will find it too gutless. My last few sleds have been an 02 XCR800, 03 ZR900, 04 Pro-X 800 with and SLP single, 05 F7 with twins.
I know a few guys will say get a Fusion 900 but no way am I considering one of them until I can ride one for myself and am convinced that they have all the bugs out of them for 06. I am not worried about the 600s performance or reliability but I am concerned about the performance compared to my past sleds.
What do you guys think?
fusion900ryder
Oct 11 2005, 08:02 PM
why do you want to step down in hp? are you afraid of the weight ? or are you afraid of the 900 not being up to your expectations? or what everyone says is bad about the 900's? ........................don't be skeeered...........get the 900.....it will be better for 06 ..............i garrrrranteeeee.............fwiw ..i had a 05 fuse and it was awesome............
flex2win
Oct 11 2005, 08:43 PM
They have made some great changes in the 9's for 2006, but the 600 HO is the pick of the litter hands down!!
ScottyR
Oct 11 2005, 08:57 PM
QUOTE(fusion900ryder @ Oct 11 2005, 09:02 PM)
why do you want to step down in hp? are you afraid of the weight ? or are you afraid of the 900 not being up to your expectations? or what everyone says is bad about the 900's? ........................don't be skeeered...........get the 900.....it will be better for 06 ..............i garrrrranteeeee.............fwiw ..i had a 05 fuse and it was awesome............
Even my dealer doesnt want to sell me a 900. He says to wait until guys ride them at the earliest if I have to have a 900. If the bugs are "truly" out of the 900s people will know early in the season but I am not going to take the chance on one without a thorough test ride which unfortunately is out of the question this time of year.
fusion900ryder
Oct 12 2005, 04:10 AM
QUOTE(ScottyR @ Oct 11 2005, 10:57 PM)
Even my dealer doesnt want to sell me a 900. He says to wait until guys ride them at the earliest if I have to have a 900. If the bugs are "truly" out of the 900s people will know early in the season but I am not going to take the chance on one without a thorough test ride which unfortunately is out of the question this time of year.
no guts ......no glory...........
stevefromwestford
Oct 12 2005, 04:15 AM
the 600 is a tight sled , rode 1 last march crisp clean and very responsive, but still a 600. Where do you ride? thats the question. If ya on somewhat tight stuff , great sled , but its prob not gonna break 100mph.
As far as the 9 , cant say i blame ya i always stay away from first yr run sleds , and as far as im concerned , when the first yr was a total flop second yr is still a first yr run. Just my opinion , im sure others will think differently.Keep in mind , poo,s top shelf sled last 2 yrs had issuses
600prox03
Oct 12 2005, 08:20 AM
the ho will go over 100..prolly 110. Go with the 600. WHo needs a big bore anyway. Your on the lakes not very often and the 600 will keep up with that 900 to 80 i bet.
Matt
Oct 12 2005, 08:20 AM
Get a 600 and use the money you save to put a 660 in it. Then wave adios to the F7s.
F7 Racer
Oct 12 2005, 10:14 AM
Keep dreaming !!!!!
twitch54
Oct 12 2005, 11:10 AM
QUOTE(Matt @ Oct 12 2005, 09:20 AM)
Get a 600 and use the money you save to put a 660 in it. Then wave adios to the F7s.

It's going to take alot more than a "660" to beat a properly set up F-7, but I do agree get the 600Ho unless you spend the majority of your time on the lake. As a "trail" sled I have no doubt the 600 will be POO's best sled.
Matt
Oct 12 2005, 11:24 AM
QUOTE(F7 Racer @ Oct 12 2005, 10:14 AM)
QUOTE(twitch54 @ Oct 12 2005, 11:10 AM)
It's going to take alot more than a "660" to beat a properly set up F-7, but I do agree get the 600Ho unless you spend the majority of your time on the lake. As a "trail" sled I have no doubt the 600 will be POO's best sled.
Hell, my 600 with the 136 beat a mighty F7 up to about 85 MPH on a hardpacked lake last season. He did eventually catch and pass me at about the quarter mile mark but the damn thing couldn't get out of its own way up to that point. Dealer verified nothing was wrong with the F7 at all. F7s are not unbeatable despite what you may read on this site. :cn:
racerdave
Oct 12 2005, 03:24 PM
QUOTE(Matt @ Oct 12 2005, 12:24 PM)
Hell, my 600 with the 136 beat a mighty F7 up to about 85 MPH on a hardpacked lake last season. He did eventually catch and pass me at about the quarter mile mark but the damn thing couldn't get out of its own way up to that point. Dealer verified nothing was wrong with the F7 at all. F7s are not unbeatable despite what you may read on this site. :cn:
Come on Matt, your in improved stock! Put your 121 back in then race. If all I wanted to do was race I'd take a F7 over any new Poo any day. And you know what brand I ride.
F7 Racer
Oct 12 2005, 03:32 PM
When I passed a XC700 last year on the lake and I weighed 70 more pounds than the guy and he had an Erlandson kit in it, I was a believer that this Firecat chassis is built for speed. 111mph right out of the box for my F6 on GPS was also enough to tell me these things fly !!!!
And for the record. If I didnt ride Cat it would be Polaris.
Matt
Oct 12 2005, 04:13 PM
They're definitely fast on top end. That narrow tunnel is insane... Buy one now if you like it though. It's going away from what I hear.
racerdave
Oct 12 2005, 04:38 PM
QUOTE(Matt @ Oct 12 2005, 05:13 PM)
They're definitely fast on top end. That narrow tunnel is insane... Buy one now if you like it though. It's going away from what I hear.
the more I look at the Fuse 6 in my garage, the more I wish I bought a F7, untill I look at the F7 prices, don't know how much they discount them
nickels
Oct 12 2005, 05:46 PM
QUOTE(racerdave @ Oct 12 2005, 05:38 PM)
the more I look at the Fuse 6 in my garage, the more I wish I bought a F7, untill I look at the F7 prices, don't know how much they discount them
Why do you say that Dave? What do you like about the F7 more then your new ride?
LibertyLover
Oct 12 2005, 06:02 PM
QUOTE(racerdave @ Oct 12 2005, 04:38 PM)
the more I look at the Fuse 6 in my garage, the more I wish I bought a F7, untill I look at the F7 prices, don't know how much they discount them
??????????????????????????????? All you have to know is how to turn a wrench. Not turn brands. And when I say turn wrench, I mean tweaking, not fixing.
polarishodragon
Oct 12 2005, 06:13 PM
just my input,i had an 05 900,went well,had numerous xcr800s,bb kit 700 xc,the most fun sled i had was an 02 prox 600,ran 105 mph on the lakes,then on the long flat trails(highways) in northern maine the sled was awesome,found a totaled xc800,purchased the engine and fit it into the prox600 chassic,remember no prox800 until 03,so thats why i built it it wasnt 1/2 as fun sled to ride the balance and handling wasnt as good with the 800,yeh the 800 would run115 or so but it just was more fun as a 600 sled ,this year i am going to a dragon 600 to try,ok i lied a bit ,my 02 edgew/xcr800 engine was my overall best,but not a factory sled toooooo badddd :doh:
ScottyR
Oct 12 2005, 08:24 PM
I think the 6 will be OK. I dont ride lakes. Just trail ride, but I do love the squeeze of a big twin coming out of a corner. If the 600 HO will hit a real 105mph I would be happy. My F7 (stock) would only run 107 WFO last season.
I wish that the Fusion 7 was not based on the 900. If it was a punched out 6, I would already have one in my garage.
I have had a few F Cats already so I dont want another. I really like the reverse on my ProX for backing into the garage.
My buddy is a Polaris dealer and I feel kind of guilty that I havent bought anything from him in the last few years. I think I will go to his shop tomorrow and take a look at the 600 again...
Matt
Oct 12 2005, 09:31 PM
RD, I doubt you'd like an FCat. The Fusion and GenII are more stable than the FCat, which has a tippier nature to it due to the narrower track. It's not like an Edge, but it's not a nice linear ski lift like the ZRs used to have either.
MR. X
Oct 14 2005, 10:33 AM
so an f7 IS faster than my dragon , bring your f7 to niagara county , niagara county trails have never seen a groomer ever, then we ll see , oh yeah bring extra shocks :div20:
Xx08Braaappp22xX
Oct 16 2005, 10:22 AM
I seen the dragon sled get smoked by a F7 :augen41: at the grass drags in camden n.y and both were stock so i dunno
polaris9500
Oct 16 2005, 10:45 AM
QUOTE(Xx08Braaappp22xXF7 @ Oct 16 2005, 11:22 AM)
I seen the dragon sled get smoked by a F7 :augen41: at the grass drags in camden n.y and both were stock so i dunno

think about it 700cc verses 600cc the f7 should win 17 hp diff. in a drag.
con-fusion 700
Oct 16 2005, 03:02 PM
QUOTE(ScottyR @ Oct 11 2005, 08:53 PM)
I am seriously considering an 06 Fusion 600 HO for the upcoming season but I am having some reservations about the 600 motor. I am afraid that I will find it too gutless. My last few sleds have been an 02 XCR800, 03 ZR900, 04 Pro-X 800 with and SLP single, 05 F7 with twins.
I know a few guys will say get a Fusion 900 but no way am I considering one of them until I can ride one for myself and am convinced that they have all the bugs out of them for 06. I am not worried about the 600s performance or reliability but I am concerned about the performance compared to my past sleds.
What do you guys think?
I say GO FOR IT! :div20: The 600 HO is 120 horse. I would bet in most scenerios, that would be more than enough. My bro has an 01 xc600 w/a little clutch work, jetting and a can. The thing rips, and its down a few ponies from an 06 HO. Get an HO, do some tweaking and never look back...............Just my .02............
PS. If the 600 HO was fuel injected, there would be one in my garage right now.
JaybirdLSSU
Oct 17 2005, 01:51 AM
My last 2 sleds have been Polaris 600s (XC SP, and Pro-X), and I loved them.....A LOT! I ride with 800s, RX1s, tripples, you get the idea....I NEVER got beat to 100mph (except by one very modded Yamaha, who ended up blowing the engine multiple times last year). Lucky for me I only weigh 150 lbs and had 1.25 ripsaws with just 96 studs on each sled. Only other mods were a clutch kit and 2 sizes less on the main jets. From a roll, I could only hold them off to 70-80mph. Pretty impressive for a 600 IMO!
My 2 cents...try the 600HO. 0-80mph, you won't be disappointed. Like 'con-fusion 700' said, if that 600HO were fuel injected, I would have for sure gotten one instead of the 750...which still isn't here yet!!!
fusion900ryder
Oct 17 2005, 10:05 AM
QUOTE(JaybirdLSSU @ Oct 17 2005, 03:51 AM)
My last 2 sleds have been Polaris 600s (XC SP, and Pro-X), and I loved them.....A LOT! I ride with 800s, RX1s, tripples, you get the idea....I NEVER got beat to 100mph (except by one
very modded Yamaha, who ended up blowing the engine multiple times last year). Lucky for me I only weigh 150 lbs and had 1.25 ripsaws with just 96 studs on each sled. Only other mods were a clutch kit and 2 sizes less on the main jets. From a roll, I could only hold them off to 70-80mph. Pretty impressive for a 600 IMO!
My 2 cents...try the 600HO. 0-80mph, you won't be disappointed. Like 'con-fusion 700' said, if that 600HO were fuel injected, I would have for sure gotten one instead of the 750...which still isn't here yet!!!
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