Probably a repeat.
But great to be sure all have seen. :div20:
http://www.exn.ca/video/?Video=exn20020325-icewater.asx

WOw, that was a great video. Thanks.

great info, thanks

Thanks for that. Very informative, especially the part about your arms freezing to the ice!

I would have thought that you had to move around to stay warm Good to know :div20:

Helpfull good to know you never really think about that but staying paralell to the ice is a pretty common sense concept but if you were in the ice and didnt know it you probably wouldnt do it! Thanks

Good information I hope I never have to use. Thank you!

Nice video!!!

Didn't they teach you anything like that in boy scouts of america?



Don't deny it

Great info, hope we never have to use it, but you never know.... :cn:

That is very good info,I never went thru any ice and hope I never do, :div20:

Yeah i second that if it was me i would have moved around thinking i was going to generate heat. Great post i just hope i never have to use any of that.

It does work my buddy put my sled through the ice last year he's about 250lb tried pulling himself out . then he remembered a video about getting your legs up and kicking your legs and popped right out.

Great post, I had my kids watch it. Hopefully they never need to use the info. But at least there educated now.

The good Dr. Really has a SET, to experience that first hand, even with rescuers right there. Thanks Doc if that helps save even one life your a hero.
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THIS GUY HAS GOOD INFO I KNOW FIRST HAND. DECEMBER 7/04 ME AND A BUDDY WERE RIDING AND I CAME OVER THE TOP OF A HILL PRETTY FAST AND THERE WAS A POND ON THE OTHER SIDE I HAD NO TIME TO STOP. I HAD TO MAKE A CHOICE IN ABOUT 1 SECOND WHEATHER OR NOT TO HIT THE BRAKES AND NOSE DRIVE DOWN ONTO THE ICE AND DEFINATLY GO UNDER, OR HIT THE GAS AND TRY TO MAKE IT ACROSS. I DID OPTION B. I MADE IT OUT IN THE MIDDLE AND IT WAS GOING DOWN!!! I STOPPED AND THOUGHT FOR A SECOND BEFORE I WENT UNDER. AS THE SLED WAS SINKING I JUPMED OFF AND TRIED TO A SPREAD EAGLE ON THE ICE AROUND ME. I WENT UNDER. YOU REALLY HAVE TO FORCE YOURSELF TO STAY CALM. YOU CAN PANIC EAISER THAN YOU THINK. WHEN I WENT UNDER I WAS KICKING MY FEET LIKE A BASTARD AND POPED TO THE TOP AGAIN. I CALMED DOWN ONCE I KNEW I COULD TRED WATER AND STAY ON TOP. LIKE HE SAID GO BACK TO WHERE YOU YOU WENT IN. THAT IS WHAT I DID AND I GOT OUT. I HAVE A ENTIRELY DIFFERENT RESEPECT FOR ICE NOW. IF THIS HAPPENS TO YOU YOU WILL KNOW WHAT I MEAN. MY ADVICE IS DON'T TAKE CHANCES ON ICE NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN YOU WILL LOOSE. IT IS A VERY SCARY ORDEAL. ONE SECOND YOU ARE RIDING AND HAVING A BLAST NEXT SECOND YOU HAVE TO REACT TO SAVE YOUR LIFE. THIS INCIDENT HAS CHANGED MY RIDING ON ICE. PLEASE BE CAREFUL. :beerchug:

Great video have seen it before had my kids and wife watch.Hope someone that does snomobile safety classes uses video.Great learning tool :div20:

I broke through the ice when I was probably 15. It's something I'll never forget. All I know is when I went through and under the water, and came back up I could not see anything. The water had froze to my helmet that fast. It was about -14f out. My first thing was to get my helmet off so I could see. After that I knew my dad had broke through in front off me and wanted to make sure he was ok. After I seen him I started trying to get up on the ice. Every time I would grab the ice would break. We weren't very far off shore so I started working my way toward shore. It didn't take very long for me to get out. After that my 2 brothers were behind us and went back to get my mom to come pick us up in the car. That wait felt like an eternity. My dad and I were like a solid block off ice. Thats one thing about snowmobiling that will always stay with me. I don't hesitate to go ice, and ride ice and open water that I know I shouldn't be doing. But whenever I am uncertain of ice it's wfo. I guess where we went in is usually open water, but since it was so cold it had frozen over. There were alot of tracks that had been across it. We weren't going fast enough to make it(probably 20-30).

Wow that is great info. I never would've guessed that you can actually survive in cold water for an hour.

you guys ride with a tek vest!!!!!
which is great but the wife and i ride with C.G.A. LIFE JACKETS, same prodection :drunk: and a third of the price.

something is better then nothing.

check out overtons web site


trackstand

p.s.

life jackets are made from the same thing tek-vest are. and it will float you and a nother person :doh:
+it will cost ya 100 bucks...........


thats way i hate lakes :no_bashing:

wow very informitive

Anybody that rides lakes or rivers should watch this.

Someone should pin this thread!

well, i cant swim. but i guess ill try it!

TTT

I too around the age of 13 went swimming on a cold February winter night. It's truly a long story. Let's just say I'm lucky to be alive. I WILL NEVER RIDE ON ICE AGAIN!!!

YS

The bit about getting your body vertical first is new to me but makes sense. Freezin yourself to the ice is drastic too but may give you a few more minutes for help to arrive. My kid watched it intently, we live on a lake so he is wise to pay attention. Just ask Freak.

ttt

The thanks, appreciation and admiration for this man's work goes to this man - Dr. Gordon Giesbrecht. Dr. Giesbrecht is a Professor of Faculty Of Physical Education And Recreation Studies.

There is more information on cold water survival on his site at the University Of Manitoba. Dr. Giesbrecht further researched this subject and has more information and videos on what to do after you get out, etc..

http://www.umanitoba.ca/faculties/physed/r...iesbrecht.shtml

Dr. Giesbrecht can be contacted at giesbrec@ms.umanitoba.ca

Why not take the time to drop him a note with a subject of "Cold Water Survival Video" and "Thanks" in the message body.

Thanks

How did he get his skiis off?

He probably just put on ski on top of the other and pushed down until it popped off. Then pushed on the last ski and it popped off.

Man if I hadn't have seen that video I probably would have drowned if I went through the ice. I never would have thought of 99% of that stuff. I would have kicked like crazy to stay warm and I probably would have kept on trying to lift myself out with my arms just because that's how I always get out of pools. I also never would have thought of freezing my arms to the ice because I could survive an hour or two with half of my body in freezing water. I think I'm gonna have to write that guy an email.

Great video, last winter when i went for the "swim" it was about 18 degrees out and the water was cold, the gasping for air really sucks with your helmet on. I do have water survival training, but had never swam in anything that cold. I was in the water for a few minutes, My skis had caught the far side of the open water and the hood was still out of the water. I jumped in to see if i could stand on the bottom and push the sled out, nope water was about 15 deep, my HJC became a divers mask, at that point i swam towards the ice and with the momentum i had grabbed and pushed up off of the ice and kinda slid like a seal at sea world on to the ice. Waiting for my buddy to drive 2 miles to get his truck Seemed like an eternity. No more water skimming for me.

What an awesome video. We run ice all the time up here in Ontario. Most of the people I ride with have floater suits. That video is very informative and should save the lives of a few people that watch it. I will definitely show it to every one that I know who snowmobiles. My kids will need to watch it a few times to get all that info to sink in.

Rob

TTT

I'm forwarding the link to all my riding buds. This video should be shown in all sled saftey classes. Thanks for posting it.

I've fallen through the ice a lot and the bottom line is to not freak out and simply use your head(common sense) and swim out. your number one concern is keeping your head up. once and if you get out you can worry about the next survival tip and that is get your ass dried out but you gotta get outa the water. If you panic when you go down your screwed, when your in the water at that point you have a job to do NOW and that is get out. All I gotta say is swim motherfucker swim!!!!! and when you get to the edge of the ice have no fear!! claw your way out...you can do it but you gotta be using your wits. when you get in a bad but yet totally surviveable situation like falling through the ice only the strong survive but anybody can do it... if your not sure, stay the hell off the ice.

Great post thanks alot

Here are 2 more video's on Snowmobiles :

"You’re Out, Now What? How to survive a night in the forest after losing your snowmobile through the ice"
http://www.umanitoba.ca/faculties/physed/r...ght_survival.rm

and

"Getting That Sinking Feeling - The importance of proper outerwear to keep you afloat and alive when snowmobiling"
http://www.umanitoba.ca/faculties/physed/r...y_Night_swim.rm

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i fell thru last year, 200 miles on my sled lol, definetly the scariest thing ever, sled hangin on by one ski, saved it tho, definetly was a cold ride home, up to my neck in water, was holding onto the front bumper of the sled lol, yay for adrenaline

Who makes the floatable suits?

you should post that in more areas, every sledder or ice fisherman or skiier etc. should see that! :div20:

Thanks, Great Info!!!!!!

Great info. Should be required viewing for everyone to get a trail permit or ice fishing license!

It's mid January, and our 6000 acre lake has an odd shaped hole a mile and a half long in the middle, in spite of sub zero and single digit temps. As chief of the local rescue dept, it's my guys and gals who go out and risk their lives to fish these people out... four already this year. Everyone who fell through admitted to knowing the hole(s) and cracks were out there, but just never figured they'd find one the hard way, duh? Snowmobiled nearly all my life, on hundreds of lakes... after working for three weeks to recover the bodies of a husband/wife a few years ago, I have a new appreciation for just how vulnerable we ALL are and how ugly of a death that must be.

Hate to preach, but ride safe and know the ice conditions for sure... your first mistake might be the last chance you get!!

GREAT POST ive been there i broke threw the ice on a quad i went to the bottom of the pond almost lets say 15 ft or so i got out the same way the video showed this happened when i was 12 now im 31 i was lucky that the quad didnt nock me out i was alone it was a half mile walk home bur i will never forget